strut top mount

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 22 Jun 2005, 00:34

i just did search for topic/s on xantia front strut top mounts,no results found can any one point me in that direction,phoned dealer for trade price £72.23+(-expletive removed-) GSF say they dont list them regards malcolm

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 22 Jun 2005, 00:50

Whats your problem??? What is happening to suspect a problem?? These top are reasonably reliable..

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 22 Jun 2005, 01:07

have you not seen the topics on here yet where strut comes up through bonnet,i know how to fix,i just thought some one on here said GSF sell top mounts,customer had his xant dropt of to my workshop bonnet shape of house roof regards malcolm

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 22 Jun 2005, 01:28

Ah. I wasn't aware that the Xantia suffered from it due to excellent rust proofing.
I know the BX's and the odd XM's have done it though..
Regards

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 22 Jun 2005, 01:42

i have never seen BXs with this prob

AndersDK · Unread post by **AndersDK** » 22 Jun 2005, 01:48

Breakers parts ?
May sound silly - but cars in DK are 98% always antirust sprayed from new - hence many DK breakers do in fact export body panel parts worldwide.
It's a bit odd - but apparently because of the antirust treatment - I've never seen or heard about a DK BX shooting up a front strut.
It's known that Xantia's can do it - but that is because of the rubber parting from the strut - not corrosion.
We do not have extremely cold winters here - but very wet winters with overnight frost sometimes reaching down to the limit of the standard roadsalt (some -7 degC).
If our roadservice forgets (or overlook) a forecast on frost - next morning will be chaos on the roads - as no-one have ever learned to drive on icy roads. It's always "nice" and salty - but safe like summertime.

nick · Unread post by **nick** » 22 Jun 2005, 02:36

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by AndersDK

It's known that Xantia's can do it - but that is because of the rubber parting from the strut - not corrosion.
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Do you know if they give any warning signs before this happens, knocking noises etc?
Just another thing for me to get paranoid about !

Unread post by **martyhopkirk** » 22 Jun 2005, 03:13

Had a NS strut mount / top in my parts box for yonks. got it off fleebay for a tenner.

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 22 Jun 2005, 03:31

anders i is talking about xant not bx,as i said earlyer i have not seen bx with this prob,martyhopkirk is it a xantia top mount you have,are they handed and did you want to flog it regards malcolm

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 22 Jun 2005, 03:33

Have a look at this topic..
http://www.andyspares.com/discussionfor ... strut,tops
I can happily confirm that my local Citroen Dealer got these for me in two days, genuine Citroen, for a little less than Andy's quote. I was well chuffed.
They do rust and the reason is that the plate is under a rubber covering. Water gets in between the rubber and metal and corrodes merrily away completely hidden. Have a look under your strut tops and if the rubber is bulging or becoming unbonded from the metal and rust flakes off then replace 'em. The metal plate is not very thick.
For £180 it's better to be safe than sorry. I just don't want to contemplate a strut making a guest appearance through the bonnet at 60 with the caravan on the back....
Andy, again many thanks for all your help in this. Sorry for the delayed response but my computer has been broke until today!

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 22 Jun 2005, 03:33

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by nick

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by AndersDK

It's known that Xantia's can do it - but that is because of the rubber parting from the strut - not corrosion.
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Do you know if they give any warning signs before this happens, knocking noises etc?
Just another thing for me to get paranoid about !
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">dont know because its a customers car regards malcolm

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 22 Jun 2005, 03:37

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by nick

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by AndersDK

It's known that Xantia's can do it - but that is because of the rubber parting from the strut - not corrosion.
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Do you know if they give any warning signs before this happens, knocking noises etc?
Just another thing for me to get paranoid about !
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No, I would hazard they just loose the will and give up suddenly. I cannot imagine they would make a noise. I believe though that a possible sign is cracking becoming visible when you look at the top plates from above between the wing turret and the strut top that carries the sphere. I always have a look at mine every time I check the oil and give them an exploratory poke with a big screwdriver...
It only takes a moment...

nick · Unread post by **nick** » 22 Jun 2005, 03:47

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by citrojim
I believe though that a possible sign is cracking becoming visible when you look at the top plates from above between the wing turret and the strut top that carries the sphere. I always have a look at mine every time I check the oil and give them an exploratory poke with a big screwdriver...
It only takes a moment...
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Yep I do check the plates at the top of the struts now & again, there's a fair bit of surface corrosion but no cracks and nothing that a screwdriver would go through.

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 22 Jun 2005, 03:53

yes jim i know i have been on to cit/dealer also GSF say they dont list them,has anyone got GSF part No regards malcolm

NiSk · Unread post by **NiSk** » 22 Jun 2005, 12:10

It's the XM which has a real problem with turret mountings - although it appears that Xantias have inherited the design fault. Om my XM you could quite easily poke a small sharp screwdriver through the steel plate that the rubber is bonded to. On the other side of the car, teh rubberbonding under teh wing had separated completely, so that when you lifted the front of the car off the ground (under the body, not under the suspension) you could move the entire strut up and down several inches.
These are the basic checks that you can perform on an XM to see it you have dodgy turrent mounting, I guess they should apply to a XANTIA as well.
//NiSk