C5 Mk3 58 plate Exclusive Hydractive Suspension height

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Re: C5 Mk3 58 plate Exclusive Hydractive Suspension height

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Thanks think i will just find a garage to sort it as it’s not my strong point mechanical stuff ok computers no lol
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bobins wrote: 06 Feb 2016, 11:42 If you want to go in search of the rear height corrector, here's a picture of it in situ. Filth, muck and dead badgers removed to aid clarity :) It's the circular thing more or less in the centre of the picture, the blue thing is the anit-roll bar clamp, the bit that connects them is the 'dog bone'.

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I am looking for official data about height of C5 2.0HDI exclusive, 2009. After adjusting of heights in official garage in Varaždin, my car is 2,5 cm lower than should be: 1425 mm instead of 1451 mm, and they said it is CORRECT height.
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Heights are not measured like that. You need to undertake the correct height measurement procedure which is in my post here:

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Just to add my question to the suspension height discussion before I swap hard disks on the laptop and go for a play, can I take a note of the current settings in Diagbox and revert to them easily if I mess up?
I know the front is high due to a local clumsy mechanic with a jacking beam, but I neither have flat ground or the proper tool, so would like to get back to somewhere around the correct levels using the wheel centre to arch method.
I know this will be far from perfect but a short-term fix will do til it stops raining here (usually sometime around August).
Obviously I want to be able to revert to current settings if I make things worse :-)

Anyone know the answer?
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No you can't - there is not backup. Once you change anything it is permanent until it is replaced with another value. Advice is not to change anything regarding suspension settings, unless you have first followed the correct measuring process as detailed in my previous post.
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I understand there's no backup Marc, just wondered if it displayed current values so they could be re-entered if necessary.

I also understand this is Citroen we're talking about so they probably wouldn't do something that logical.
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No, as far as the suspension goes (and several other systems in live data), you may see reference values. These are factory set and cannot be changed, but are used to show the values or range of values that are valid. Be careful with the suspension values though as these refer to 'Steps' not measurements and are recalculated by the the data resulting from the values resulting from the measuring procedures.
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On well. Guess it's time to retire do the garage and bodge a measuring tool then
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For most C5 X7 the height values that will be accepted are 160-170 front and 100-110 rear.
Once you get both values accepted then you can tweak them. If one of the values is outside the range it will default to 128 if I remember correctly so you will have to re-enter the last values that worked. Change in steps of 5 until you find the minimum and maximum values that are accepted and then you can fine tune.
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GiveMeABreak wrote: 03 Dec 2017, 12:28 2 Preliminary operations
  • Verify the tyre pressure.
  • Place the vehicle on a 4-post lift.
  • Slacken the parking brake .
  • Position the body height at the high position.
  • Position the body height at the normal position (driving height).
  • Switch on the ignition.
  • Raise the vehicle.
Two questions:
[*]Switch on the ignition.
1. To prevent the car goes into "Economy mode" - Is it OK to have the hood open and a battery charger connected to the battery during the process?
[*]Raise the vehicle.
2. Should the measurements been done with the car in the highest position and not in normal position?
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1) No, not necessary as the height correction is maintained by the BHI with the ignition on, regardless of economy mode, but if you have a battery in poor health, I suggest you give it a good trickle charge overnight in any case.

2) No. The measuring process must undertaken at normal ride height as the calculations are designed to end up with calculated values that will be used to compare with determined reference values. Having the vehicle at other ride heights will make the measurements totally invalid.

The last line referred to in the quote "Raise the Vehicle" does not mean raise the vehicle suspension, it means raise the vehicle on the 4 post lift as the last thing in the preliminary list of actions. Lets look at them in context:

2 Preliminary operations
  • Verify the tyre pressure. This is to ensure that the tyres are correctly inflated to the recommended pressures to provide accurate measurements
  • Place the vehicle on a 4-post lift. For the reasons explained in my last paragraph below
  • Slacken the parking brake. As this can interfere with the process
  • Position the body height at the high position. As part of a preliminary calibration to ensure suspension is moving freely
  • Position the body height at the normal position (driving height). As part of a preliminary calibration to ensure suspension is moving freely
  • Switch on the ignition. To allow the vehicle height to remain controlled during the measuring procedure
  • Raise the vehicle.
To make it easier for the technician to take the measurements at his own body height.

The reason the vehicle is put on a 4-post lift is because a) measurements are more easily taken by the technician when the vehicle is on a level 4-post lift. b) For safety reasons, as if the car has a problem with maintaining height, there is a risk that the vehicle may come crashing down on an individual, if say one or more height correctors is faulty or an adjustment is made, with potentially fatal consequences.
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GiveMeABreak wrote: 20 Oct 2022, 09:03
The last line referred to in the quote "Raise the Vehicle" does not mean raise the vehicle suspension, it means raise the vehicle on the 4 post lift as the last thing in the preliminary list of actions.
Of course :oops: :oops: :oops:

(I'll know of the danger of working underneath a hydraulic Citroën but thanks for the warning :wink:)
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