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G'evening all

In the days when I had a series of Citroens I frequented this site a lot and then I went to the dark side, Toyota and Lexus Hybrids, my tools have grown rusty and scattered and the brain equally atrophied, Now I have "discovered" the Peugeot 508 SW RXH I wonder if before I do something silly does anybody have experience of these? what would I need to look out for if buying? is the Autobox a proper auto or one of these electric manual things and how good are they? Need all the negatives so I can walk on by to a Lexus RX450 :-) (but the 508 sounds more fun :-) Any thoughts appreciated.

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I guess thats a no then :-)

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Can't help with any info on the 508 but welcome back if you do decide come back to PSA cars.

How long ago was it that you sold your car (Mk1 C5 2.2 HDi IIRC) and went oriental?

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Hi Paul
Going Oriental? well the Prius was the first, purchased a very beat up body wise Prius series 2 1.5 ltr) in 2012. Although had some minor disappointment in standard equipment, principally lack of heated wing mirrors and minimal instrumentation it was, once I had got used to driving it nice and relaxing to drive. The reason for purchase was simply that the C5 consumed a lot of fuel circa 29 mpg on the relatively short (12 mile) urban daily drive. The Prius returned 55 with no problem, had a better sound system less engine noise just a better drive for going and coming to work and only £10 per year tax.
On a longer run involving Motorway the difference was not so marked the C5 would return low 40's would cruise in the low 70's with no apparent stress . The Prius on the other hand would return 45 and while the Prius will cruise into the low 70's it feels slightly more stressed, the carrying capacity is less as well and of course with a load of bricks in the back the lights do tend to point skywards :-)
Come 2015 and the C5 had a few problems, the FAP was coking up and there was a problem with the additive ECU and it was going to cost time and money so I started to look for a replacement. What I needed was a bigger Prius, enter a Lexus RX400H, this was a bit of a mistake should have found another four grand and purchased a 450H. The Lexus is big and comfortable, however fuel consumption on the Motorway is less than the C5 and the carrying capacity is also less, however every time I have to accelerate it does bring a smile to my face (after I have got the torque steer under control :-).
Both cars have been extremely reliable the only thing I have had to replace was a wheel bearing on the Prius carried out by the local Toyota dealer while I waited, for not a lot of money, well impressed, and the exhaust system on the Prius after some toerags stole the CAT.
Put oil in them when I remember and Petrol when needed tyres occasional and that's it. Oh and fitting parking sensors on the Lexus, the corners were getting scraped without me even feeling it :-( Ah! yes cambelt change on the Lexus ,one reason why I should have purchased the RX450). Over the last six years I have only had to pick up a spanner in anger once, in truth I can't remember where many of them are.
I have always felt that both cars would have been better with diesel engines, would have improved the Mway consumption markedly so looking for a Lexus replacement was thinking about an RX450 but then the Peugeot came across my horizon, this seems to tick most of the boxes but do want to know more about it before going that route in particular about the auto gearbox and the traction batteries, how much detailed tech info is there what rev level of diagnostic kit needed etc. Hence my questions.
Yes would be nice to come back here on a more regular basis I still lurk occasional but being where I am have little to contribute, would that there was a site like this for Toyota / Lexus but I suspect that given the reliability particularly of the Hybrids it might be a little lacking in content, maybe that's why nobody here knows anything about the 508 hybrid :-)
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I think maybe I should have posted this in the DS(5) section as they both appear to be the same car under the skin and Citroen always had more adherents than Peugeot :-)

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I could be wrong but I thought that the DS5 was based on the same platform as the Peugeot 308 not the 508?

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Paul
You may well be right as the DS5 does appear to be a little smaller by my mk1 eyeball. I am more fixated on the things which might cost me money / time on a secondhand one. E.G traction battery's hybrid system generally, FAP details, autobox reliability steering rack, my guess is that these would be he same across the PSA range.

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The DS5 was based on the PF2 Extended platform like the 307 and 3087 SWs (not the standard 307 & 308), as well as the C4 Picassos, Berlingos, 5008 etc.

The later 508 from 2018 is based on the EMP2 platform, along with the C5 Aircross, 408 II, 3008 II, 4008 II, DS4, DS7 etc.

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Hi Marc

Thank you for the info I was originally looking at a 2012 508 being sold cheap because various modes that depended on the "electric bits" at the back didn't work, as it was predominately electrics sounded like it might be a cheap fix depending on accessibility / price of any bits required.
The one question your explanation didn't answer is the DS5 upto say 2016 built on the same platform as the 508SW upto the same date.
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No. The MK I 508 from 2010 and the C5 X7 shared the same PF3 platform. The DS5 used the same platform as mentioned until it was discontinued in 2018 after poor sales.