New synergie owner
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New synergie owner
Good afternoon. Just registered on here, thought I'd say hello. Bought my 1997 synergie TD in April, after years of saying I'd get one (and kept buying galaxys for practical reasons) but finally had enough of computers and blowing turbos, so I took the plunge and bought "Firefry"
We're a 2 Citroen family now (not quite sure how they happened but never mind ). My wife has a 2002 xsara picasso 2.0hdi
Both cars are run on veg, mine is 100% full time apart from when the the weather is really really cold, and the picasso runs 50/50 veg/derv in the summer, and ⅓/⅔ veg/derv in the winter.
I'm an hgv driver from Preston, and moved to bacup 3 or 4 years ago or there abouts.
At home we're me, my wife, 3 kids (8, 10, 13) and a daft-as-a-brush staffy cross.
So there's a bit about me, looking forward to be involved in the forum
We're a 2 Citroen family now (not quite sure how they happened but never mind ). My wife has a 2002 xsara picasso 2.0hdi
Both cars are run on veg, mine is 100% full time apart from when the the weather is really really cold, and the picasso runs 50/50 veg/derv in the summer, and ⅓/⅔ veg/derv in the winter.
I'm an hgv driver from Preston, and moved to bacup 3 or 4 years ago or there abouts.
At home we're me, my wife, 3 kids (8, 10, 13) and a daft-as-a-brush staffy cross.
So there's a bit about me, looking forward to be involved in the forum
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Re: New synergie owner
Hello, and welcome.
Have always liked the look of the Synergie, and its straightforward turbo XUD.
You likely have it already, but the Citroen Mechanics' Handbook for the car is worth downloading and printing:
viewtopic.php?p=590278#p590278
Just hit the red '2001' to download the pdf.
Have always liked the look of the Synergie, and its straightforward turbo XUD.
You likely have it already, but the Citroen Mechanics' Handbook for the car is worth downloading and printing:
viewtopic.php?p=590278#p590278
Just hit the red '2001' to download the pdf.
Chris
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Re: New synergie owner
Yeah I've seen the through Citroen service. Oddly, it only lists the hdi under synergies, the xud is listed under the xantia sections but only auto. Which is strange
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and lots of Rovers before that: 1935 Ten, 1947 Sixteen, 1960 P5 3-litre, 1966 P6 2000, 1972 P6 2000TC, and 1975 P6B 3500S - x 1752
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Re: New synergie owner
Welcome to the forum, there are some terrific people on here so have a good look round and join in wherever you fancy!!
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Re: New synergie owner
Moths
I used to run my old AX 1.4D (Bosch pump) on new veg oil and it used to be worth it even buying new oil - that was 12 years ago!
I haven't tried it on my Xantia HDi though mainly because the price of new veg oil is only a bit cheaper than diesel nowadays
I used to run my old AX 1.4D (Bosch pump) on new veg oil and it used to be worth it even buying new oil - that was 12 years ago!
I haven't tried it on my Xantia HDi though mainly because the price of new veg oil is only a bit cheaper than diesel nowadays
On my 4th Citroën Xantia (X2 HDi (110))
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
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Re: New synergie owner
Works out 70p a litre. Is your hdi the 90bhp? If so, it's the same as my wife's xsara Picasso
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Re: New synergie owner
Don't use veg in a HDi.
Biodiesel is OK but veg is bad news.
Biodiesel is OK but veg is bad news.
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Re: New synergie owner
I'm part of a veg oil / biodiesel group on Facebook, and there's a lot of hdi owners on a mix of veg with no problems. I wouldn't encourage 100% by any means, but we've been running 50/50 without issue. Pre mixed because the in tank lift pump is supposedly weak so it removes the risk of it pulling a concentrated area of veg. We'll be reducing it to ⅓ veg soon for the colder months (although my synergie will continue to chug pure veg down to freezing temps. Then I might do 20% derv)
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Re: New synergie owner
It does have a reputation of clogging piston rings and accumulating on the cylinder walls, as well as being unhealthy for the diesel pump.
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I ran my Mitsubishi Shogun and Delica on pre heated 100% used/filtered veggie oil for 4 years with no engine issues at all. However keep an eye on the fuel pipes and joints, as I developed a weeping leak in the heater output joint on the Delica. Because I was getting 26mpg for half the price, I used to think I was getting the equivalent of 52mpg on diesel, so I ignored the weep. Sadly, when MOT time came round, I discovered where the veggie had been leaking to, it had dissolved virtually all the front nearside rubber components in both the steering and suspension. Thus the economic thing to do was scrap it, break it and get my investment back in parts. Fortunately I had a workshop at the time and was able to strip the body bare and sell most of the usable parts for a total sum of £4260 which was £740 more than I had spent on buying and converting the vehicle. So I was lucky but the moral of the story is of course, if using veggie oil, make sure it only gets where it is supposed to and start the engine every day on diesel, switch to veggie after a couple of mins running and then switch back to diesel for a couple of minutes before switching off. That procedure ensures the pump seals etc, are not soaking in veggie overnight and so should not suffer. Running the veggie through a preheater was also vastly superior in engine smoothness and power output!!
This is the part I took to the scrapyard for the last £150!!:
This is the part I took to the scrapyard for the last £150!!:
I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure!
I used to ride on two wheels, but now I need all four!
I used to ride on two wheels, but now I need all four!
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Re: New synergie owner
That's unlucky. I've never had an issue. I use fresh veg which is less acidic that waste veg, the only part that's likely to become victim is the seal in the injection pump. If it were to weep, there's an uprated one that can be fitted, but touch wood, in the last 8 or so years I've been running veg, I've never had an issue in anything (not veg related anyway haha)
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Re: New synergie owner
I read an article on making bio-diesel &, as I recall, it's waste vegetable oil that's been filtered - although THAT process is a little more sophisticated than just pouring it through a coffee filter.
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Re: New synergie owner
No mine is a 110 HDi great engine but not ideal as a town car
70p @ Ltr is tempting but I should add that my mileage NOW is only around 5K a year and mostly short town runs so I feel it wouldn't be worth it in those conditions.
On my 4th Citroën Xantia (X2 HDi (110))
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch