Towing capacity.
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Towing capacity.
Hello, just a quick query.
I’ve looked online trying to find a guide to towing capacity. Guides are telling me to subtract the max vehicle laden weight from the gross train weight. I’ve done this using the plate found on the door pillar on my 2008 C5 2 Ltr Hdi Auto exclusive tourer estate and this gives me 1200Kg!
This doesn’t seem a lot to me and I’m sure I’ve seen up to 1500 or 1700Kg quoted somewhere. Where am I going wrong?
Thanks.
I’ve looked online trying to find a guide to towing capacity. Guides are telling me to subtract the max vehicle laden weight from the gross train weight. I’ve done this using the plate found on the door pillar on my 2008 C5 2 Ltr Hdi Auto exclusive tourer estate and this gives me 1200Kg!
This doesn’t seem a lot to me and I’m sure I’ve seen up to 1500 or 1700Kg quoted somewhere. Where am I going wrong?
Thanks.
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Re: Towing capacity.
The maximum total weight (before needing a different driving license) is, I believe, 3.5 tonnes shared between the towing vehicle and the trailer. There will be different weight limits for a vehicle depending on whether the trailer is unbraked (therefore relying on the brakes of the towing vehicle to stop it) or braked (typically when a plunger in the towing arm of the trailer is depressed when the towing vehicle applies its' brakes, causing the trailer to also apply ITS' brakes (there may be another mechanism to do this)).
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Re: Towing capacity.
Jetjockey wrote: ↑04 Jul 2019, 13:51 Hello, just a quick query.
I’ve looked online trying to find a guide to towing capacity. Guides are telling me to subtract the max vehicle laden weight from the gross train weight. I’ve done this using the plate found on the door pillar on my 2008 C5 2 Ltr Hdi Auto exclusive tourer estate and this gives me 1200Kg!
This doesn’t seem a lot to me and I’m sure I’ve seen up to 1500 or 1700Kg quoted somewhere. Where am I going wrong?
Thanks.
Look at the table and you'll see that the towing weights vary dependent upon engine type and gearbox / Saloon / Estate. Yours is column 3.
You have both an Estate and an Auto box, so the towing capacity is less. Compare to the manual.
This are the weights for the Estate diesel only:
Citroen C5 (X7 Estate) Marketed versions | 1.6 HDi 16v | 2.0 HDi 16v | 2.0 HDi 16v | 2.2 HDi 16v | 2.7 HDi 24v |
Engines: | DV6TED4 | DW10BTED4 | DW10BTED4 | DW12BTED4 | DT17BTED4 |
Gearbox | BE4R | ML6C | AM6 | ML6C | AM6 |
Payload | 641 | 621 | 631 | 587 | 574 |
Unladen weight (MVA) (EEC) | 1537 | 1655 | 1695 | 1765 | 1802 |
Gross vehicle weight (MTAC) (EEC) | 2178 | 2276 | 2326 | 2352 | 2376 |
Gross train weight (MTRA) | 3178 | 3778 | 3526 | 3952 | 3676 |
Maximum braked trailer weight (Incline < 8 %) | 1000 | 1800 | 1200 | 1800 | 1300 |
Maximum braked trailer weight (8 % < incline < 12 %) | 1000 | 1500 | 1200 | 1600 | 1300 |
Maximum braked trailer weight with load transfer within the limit of the gross train weight (Incline < 12 %) | 1300 | 1800 | 1500 | 1900 | 1600 |
Maximum unbraked trailer weight | 750 | 750 | 750 | 750 | 750 |
Maximum weight on the tow ball | 52 | 72 | 60 | 77 | 64 |
Maximum weight on roof bars | 80 | 80 | 80 | 80 | 80 |
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Re: Towing capacity.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what do they mean exactly when they talk about a max towing weight of 1500Kg taking into account load transfer?
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Re: Towing capacity.
Have a look at the following and it should clarify load transfer for you. Basically it is the Tow Ball Mass which is the load "transferred" to the towing ball:
https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-ad ... -trailers/
https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-ad ... -trailers/
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Re: Towing capacity.
My interpretation is that you can tow up to 1500kg, but must deduct the extra above 1200 kg from the car's payload.
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Re: Towing capacity.
A bit more on Weight Distribution (Load Transfer) systems.
https://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-par ... ystems.htm
https://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-par ... ystems.htm
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Re: Towing capacity.
They are crap with an Auto box, no wonder the Snailers stopped buying them....another FAIL from Citroen.
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Re: Towing capacity.
What are crap with an auto box and what are Snailers?
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Re: Towing capacity.
I think he's referring to 2.0HDi auto C5's being crap at towing and I presume the French public would be the snailers!!
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Re: Towing capacity.
I don't tow myself and have the slightly more powerful 140 variant but 6 speed manual - however, the dealer removed the towbar for me at my request when I bought it, and all I can say was that the previous owner wrecked the clutch and dual mass flywheel as that went at 40k and the DMF was really bad on inspection.
I thing towing should be left to these, or get a Winnebago.
I thing towing should be left to these, or get a Winnebago.
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Re: Towing capacity.
I guessed that snailers are people towing caravans as they generally slower than the rest of the traffic.
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Re: Towing capacity.
Paul_R wins the peanut....Yep: snailers = box towers
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Re: Towing capacity.
Snailers! You’ve not seen my brother towing!!
Re: Towing capacity.
Just how bad is crap?
Should I be looking to get rid of this from a towing perspective? I’m sure that I’ve read some customer reports and they’ve been quite happy?
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Should I be looking to get rid of this from a towing perspective? I’m sure that I’ve read some customer reports and they’ve been quite happy?
Cheers.