I share Stickyfinger's scepticism.
When I left school, I went to work for Lister Diesels in the late 60's. All engines were dynamometer tested, and those for particularly demanding applications were run-in, using a moly-based lubricating oil which was drained out before shipping. The efficacy of this expensive stuff had had to be demonstrated by the company's development engineers to both management and to external test authorities like Lloyds and the GPO (Listers supplied the standby generators for all rural and many urban telephone exchanges). The purpose of the Moly was to protect engines, like stand-by generators, going onto full load immediately on starting.
Ever seen a wet-sump diesel engine slowly rotated through 360 around the crankshaft axis, while running at load, with a pause at 180, multiple times? Simulated capsizes of a ship's lifeboat. Impressive demonstration, particularly as external inspectors could, and sometimes did, require an engine to be stripped for their inspection afterwards. Now that's what I call "bullet-proof"!
xado, engine treatment
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Old-Guy
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Re: xado, engine treatment
2012 Subaru Forester - capable but no magic carpet
2011 Grand C4 Picasso VTR+ 1.6HDi - not missed!
1995 Xantia Estate SX 1.9TD in Vert Vega "The Green Lady" - sadly missed
1998 Xantia 2.1 VXD Estate in Mauritius Blue - R.I.P. (terminal tin-worm)
2011 Grand C4 Picasso VTR+ 1.6HDi - not missed!
1995 Xantia Estate SX 1.9TD in Vert Vega "The Green Lady" - sadly missed
1998 Xantia 2.1 VXD Estate in Mauritius Blue - R.I.P. (terminal tin-worm)
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Raul
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Re: xado, engine treatment
Here is what happens to the engine without oil:
As you can see it took 7 minutes with medium revs to lock the engine. However with xado or rvs treatment the engine (at least a simple petrol engine. I have not seen a test with disesel or turbodiesel engine) survives driving hundreds of kms without oil. So at least some of their claims are true.
As you can see it took 7 minutes with medium revs to lock the engine. However with xado or rvs treatment the engine (at least a simple petrol engine. I have not seen a test with disesel or turbodiesel engine) survives driving hundreds of kms without oil. So at least some of their claims are true.
Citroen gsa 1299 , 1982
Citroen gs 1,2 pallas 1977
Citroen xantia 1,9 td estate 1996
Citroen Xantia 2.0 hdi 90 2000
Citroen gs 1,2 pallas 1977
Citroen xantia 1,9 td estate 1996
Citroen Xantia 2.0 hdi 90 2000
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lexi
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Re: xado, engine treatment
Honda coat the piston rings of their new engines with Molybdenum even today.
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Xantia 1.9td est.
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Xantia V6 MK 2
French Mistresses gone.
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Stickyfinger
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Re: xado, engine treatment
Start up grease is not the same as this product, as with this it gets flushed.
Alasdair
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Raul
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Re: xado, engine treatment
Got the car dynoed.
Deeply disappointed:
First pull:
max power=53,5 kw @3650 RPM, Max Torque 171,1 Nm@2800 RPM
Second pull:
max power=54,8 kw@3750 RPM, Max Torque=171 NM@2800 RPM
Those figures are at wheels. Considering the losses are about 10% on the fwd car, the power at the flywheel is about 60 KW.
So in conclusion the product did not help to return the engine power to the standard value.
Altough the result was not like I expected, I still have not lost all the faith in this product. I am going to drive the car 50 km without oil. Lets see how this product works with the diesel engine. If the test is successful, I am going to treat all my other cars with this product too. Specially the gs as it has no possibility to overhaul the crankshaft bearings.
Deeply disappointed:
First pull:
max power=53,5 kw @3650 RPM, Max Torque 171,1 Nm@2800 RPM
Second pull:
max power=54,8 kw@3750 RPM, Max Torque=171 NM@2800 RPM
Those figures are at wheels. Considering the losses are about 10% on the fwd car, the power at the flywheel is about 60 KW.
So in conclusion the product did not help to return the engine power to the standard value.
Altough the result was not like I expected, I still have not lost all the faith in this product. I am going to drive the car 50 km without oil. Lets see how this product works with the diesel engine. If the test is successful, I am going to treat all my other cars with this product too. Specially the gs as it has no possibility to overhaul the crankshaft bearings.
Citroen gsa 1299 , 1982
Citroen gs 1,2 pallas 1977
Citroen xantia 1,9 td estate 1996
Citroen Xantia 2.0 hdi 90 2000
Citroen gs 1,2 pallas 1977
Citroen xantia 1,9 td estate 1996
Citroen Xantia 2.0 hdi 90 2000