nemo noise

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stevemiller
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nemo noise

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When I accelerate and more noticeably when decreasing speed I can hear what sounds like I'm driving an electric car..
Its coming from the offside Im guessing from a pulley/clutch pully?
Has anyone had this ?
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citronut
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Re: memo noise

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clutch thrust bearing dry maybe?????
Regards, malcolm.

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stevemiller
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Re: memo noise

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I hope not..whats meant by dry thrust bearing
ive changed hydrolic thrust bearings, thats where my knowledge ends
I hope I dont need to do another dam clutch
citronut
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Re: memo noise

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how long ago was the clutch last done then Steve?????
Regards, malcolm.

current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
stevemiller
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Re: memo noise

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Just got this van...
Noise is coming from crank pulley side or appears to from inside the van
gear changes feel fine
sparksie
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Re: memo noise

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If you're talking about a whine, that's engine speed related, then it could be the timing belt is too tight.
There are also bearings in the alternator, water pump, belt tensioners and power steering pump, any of which could be noisy.
The alternator pulley probably has an over-run clutch, which can fail in a number of ways. If it goes out of line, the belt will be getting chewed up and making noise.
If your noise is road speed related, then look for things rubbing on the tyre, road surface, hub/disc assembly. or shaft.
Don't overlook the obvious... A mudflap catching on a tyre makes a surprising amount of noise.
If the noise seems not related directly to either engine, or road speed, then perhaps it could be turbo whistle.
Can you be a little more descriptive? Most of us haven't driven an electric vehicle, so won't know what it sounds like!
Sparksie

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citronut
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Re: memo noise

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sparksie wrote: Most of us haven't driven an electric vehicle, so won't know what it sounds like!
aaah i missed that bit, maybe you need to speak to a washing machine engineer :twisted: :yikes: :eye: :eye: #-o :-D :lol: :rofl2: :rofl2: :wink:
Regards, malcolm.

current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
stevemiller
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Re: memo noise

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On my last van I had a woo woo sound apparently my gearbox was to blame turned out to be the alternator
although on inspection the pulley felt fine, just went with gut feeling
thats why I was looking for a heads up.
I later had to change the box but thats another story, I'm now so paranoid..lol
I now drive a hybrid, well operate the bonnet OFTEN.
stevemiller
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Re: memo noise

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Ive taken the auxiliary belt off the tick tick noise is still there, the crank pulley is a little unstable , ive heard this give trouble
the power steering pulley has some play in it , in and out a few mm and its no exactly smooth, I can feel resistance
but perhaps this is how they feel ?
can the pulley be changed without removing the body?
Although it looks like the lateral movement may mean changing the lot
maybe this is the electric motor noise, its a shame I can't drive it.
stevemiller
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Re: memo noise

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The electric motor noise goes when driven without the belt..
I was finally able to get the dishwasher off the drive
The power steering works fine, so it can stay where it it until ive saved for a new
Crank pulley and motor
Ive never done power steering, so if anyone can point me in the right direction
a walk through or youtube ?
thanks again everyone
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Re: nemo noise

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Hi
I think it's time someone asked what variant we're talking about. What engine/transmission has it got?
How is the power steering belt tensioned?
If there's a tensioner pulley, is it smooth and quiet when you spin it without the belt?
If there's not and the pump is the only pulley driven by that belt, then it sounds like you have a problem in the hydraulics of the steering.
The most likely reason for a noisy power steering pump is low fluid level. You should check this and, if low, establish why. It could be a leak, possibly due to a failing rack, which you do need to know about!
But this is all speculation, given all we know so far is its a van!
Sparksie

2000 Xantia 1.9TurboD
stevemiller
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Re: nemo noise

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Its a 2008 nemo 1.4 hdi diesel..sorry I can't help with the gearbox
the crank pulley drives the alternator and power steering
with the belt removed the alternator, tensioner and static guides
run smoothly
the power steering pulley has lateral play and dosnt feel good when spun
otherwise the steering s good, no leaks and the systems full
Not perfect at full lock one way.
I could live with this but I think the crank pulley needs replacing as I can hear a tic tic tic noise, apparently this would be the pulley.. hope
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Re: nemo noise

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Whenever I have a noise like this I can't isolate I grab a stethoscope. They can be had for about £5 off ebay or amazon, don't need an expensive one. Just recreate the noise and point the stethoscope at each suspect component until you hear where it is. If you do this make sure you start about 3ft away and move in or you'll need a hearing aid too.
stevemiller
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Re: nemo noise

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Yes ive used a scope..all around the engine, but it would get messy if I placed it on the pulley lol