Computer operating systems
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myglaren
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Re: Computer operating systems
Try it on the Old Faithful - although you will probably need the 32 bit version for that.
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Xaccers
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Re: Computer operating systems
Ouch! that's a bit of a woopsie!myglaren wrote:Actually, STOP right there Franklin.
You may kill your computer. Some Samsungs have a serious defect that is currently unresolved.
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Re: Computer operating systems
Just reverted everything in the BIOS back to how it was, fingers crossed no damage done....
Just my luck eh?! Isn't it typical I picked a Samsung...
Just counted how many clicks it takes to shut down Windows 8 without just pressing the power button... 6! SIX!!
Might try it on this one, although the new laptop was meant to replace this!
Think it's Windows 7 here we come for the Samsung...
Just my luck eh?! Isn't it typical I picked a Samsung...
Just counted how many clicks it takes to shut down Windows 8 without just pressing the power button... 6! SIX!!
Might try it on this one, although the new laptop was meant to replace this!
Think it's Windows 7 here we come for the Samsung...
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Northern_Mike
Re: Computer operating systems
"as it appears to be caused by a kernel driver for Samsung laptops"....myglaren wrote:Actually, STOP right there Franklin.
You may kill your computer. Some Samsungs have a serious defect that is currently unresolved.
Er, no, that's a serious fault with Linux. Nothing to do with Samsung if the Ubuntu community can't write their drivers correctly.
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myglaren
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Re: Computer operating systems
I have to disagree Mike,
it isn't just Ubuntu but Linux in general, drivers are incorporated into the Linux kernel and therefore common to all distributions. Ubuntu is just the stuff that floats on top of the kernel and most of that is actually Debian, as is Linux Mint. Ubuntu just put a 'flavour' on top of that.
My first reaction was as yours Mike but as this problem has never arisen previously and all other computers are unaffected, only a recent selection of Samsung devices showing the fault and Samsung engineers working with Linux developers to rectify it then I think that the problem appears to be caused by Samsung deviating from established protocols for their hardware/firmware.
it isn't just Ubuntu but Linux in general, drivers are incorporated into the Linux kernel and therefore common to all distributions. Ubuntu is just the stuff that floats on top of the kernel and most of that is actually Debian, as is Linux Mint. Ubuntu just put a 'flavour' on top of that.
My first reaction was as yours Mike but as this problem has never arisen previously and all other computers are unaffected, only a recent selection of Samsung devices showing the fault and Samsung engineers working with Linux developers to rectify it then I think that the problem appears to be caused by Samsung deviating from established protocols for their hardware/firmware.
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CitroJim
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Re: Computer operating systems
So there. Consider yourself told Mike

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Xaccers
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Re: Computer operating systems
Now, wasn't I just saying about Linux users complaining PCs are at fault for not working with Linux 
Windows doesn't cause the same problem so it is a Linux issue not hardware.
Windows doesn't cause the same problem so it is a Linux issue not hardware.
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Northern_Mike
Re: Computer operating systems
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly Xac!Xac wrote:Now, wasn't I just saying about Linux users complaining PCs are at fault for not working with Linux
Windows doesn't cause the same problem so it is a Linux issue not hardware.
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Northern_Mike
Re: Computer operating systems
12.10 doesn't work with either my Dell Insiprion 4050, or my HP2510p. Hangs after install on the logon screen. I'd suggest that Linux isn't the wonderous OS that many claim it to be. We never get problems with the *nix boxes at work, but none of them are Intel boxes..myglaren wrote:I have to disagree Mike,
it isn't just Ubuntu but Linux in general, drivers are incorporated into the Linux kernel and therefore common to all distributions. Ubuntu is just the stuff that floats on top of the kernel and most of that is actually Debian, as is Linux Mint. Ubuntu just put a 'flavour' on top of that.
My first reaction was as yours Mike but as this problem has never arisen previously and all other computers are unaffected, only a recent selection of Samsung devices showing the fault and Samsung engineers working with Linux developers to rectify it then I think that the problem appears to be caused by Samsung deviating from established protocols for their hardware/firmware.
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Xaccers
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Re: Computer operating systems
Had to set up a printer on a load of Macs today. Seriously, I do not understand the attraction of them!
Apart from my hand getting cramp using their 1cm high 10cm long mice, everything is such a long winded process.
On a networked PC to install a shared printer, you run the add printer wizard, find the one you want, it downloads the drivers from the server automatically and you're done.
Even if it's not shared on a network it's still easy, download and run the drivers (or run them from a network share), give it the printer's IP address and job done.
On a Mac? Find the CIFS share on the network (hardest part was finding how to get to this bit, command K in the end and oh how browsing through a share takes time), copy the driver package to the desktop because you can't install it from the share.
Run the package to install the drivers.
Go to system preferences > printers and add the printer giving it a name and IP address, select the driver from the list.
Close the umpteen dozen windows this process has needed.
Send the downloaded package to the trash.
Apparently Apple don't believe in tabs either, for different printer options you have to select the relevent option type from a drop down list to get them to show. Bloody awkward if you're just looking for an option while with Windows at least you can flick through tabs quickly.
Apart from my hand getting cramp using their 1cm high 10cm long mice, everything is such a long winded process.
On a networked PC to install a shared printer, you run the add printer wizard, find the one you want, it downloads the drivers from the server automatically and you're done.
Even if it's not shared on a network it's still easy, download and run the drivers (or run them from a network share), give it the printer's IP address and job done.
On a Mac? Find the CIFS share on the network (hardest part was finding how to get to this bit, command K in the end and oh how browsing through a share takes time), copy the driver package to the desktop because you can't install it from the share.
Run the package to install the drivers.
Go to system preferences > printers and add the printer giving it a name and IP address, select the driver from the list.
Close the umpteen dozen windows this process has needed.
Send the downloaded package to the trash.
Apparently Apple don't believe in tabs either, for different printer options you have to select the relevent option type from a drop down list to get them to show. Bloody awkward if you're just looking for an option while with Windows at least you can flick through tabs quickly.
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Northern_Mike
Re: Computer operating systems
There is an easier way to do it on a Mac than this Xac, but it's about 18 months since I had to do one. I'll get you the documentation I created if you wish..
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Chlorate
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Re: Computer operating systems
I'm still running Windows XP at home 
Stable and simple, although I'm starting to want to upgrade to something in 64 bit flavour that allows more than 1gig of memory per thread...
Most of work is still running Vista, and is in the process of moving over to 7 - which is causing all kinds of trouble.
Stable and simple, although I'm starting to want to upgrade to something in 64 bit flavour that allows more than 1gig of memory per thread...
Most of work is still running Vista, and is in the process of moving over to 7 - which is causing all kinds of trouble.
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Re: Computer operating systems
Spanish Linux users complain PCs aren't designed for Linux - try to get EU to fine Microsoft.
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Northern_Mike
Re: Computer operating systems
I moved from Win XP to Win7 on my office desktop at work last Wednesday. It's got some pretty specific software on it (Tivoli Workload Scheduler, Putty, Reflections, Netbackup etc) and I've had absolutely no problems at all.Chlorate wrote:I'm still running Windows XP at home
Stable and simple, although I'm starting to want to upgrade to something in 64 bit flavour that allows more than 1gig of memory per thread...
Most of work is still running Vista, and is in the process of moving over to 7 - which is causing all kinds of trouble.
The one thing I can't seem to do is right-click on the taskbar and arrange all the windows in equal sized squares on the screen. Just doesn't do it. XP was "tile windows horizontally". Win7 doesn't have this.
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Northern_Mike
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Well no one is stopping them buying SunBlade workstations, or other kit designed for *nix OSes.Xac wrote:Spanish Linux users complain PCs aren't designed for Linux - try to get EU to fine Microsoft.
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