406 Replacement Key required

[Rhothgar]

Hello to all,

This is my first post on the Peugeot side of the forum!

I have the opportunity to buy what appears to be a very nice 406 from auction today. However, it does not have its original key.

I typed in 406 replacement key in the Search and it came up with an interesting article on transponders.

I have a couple of questions though. Does anyone know how much a replacement key from Peugeot would cost including any coding? It mentions the transponder code (presumably that's the immobiliser keypad which will likely have been changed during its life). Am I correct?

Many thanks in anticipation.

Rhothgar

[The Birdman]

Have you a keypad to enter code it will be either in front of gearstick or right of the steering wheel .

[DickieG]

A new key blade is around £20ish if however you want a remote fob then the price is considerably more, the last time I looked at a new S2 Xantia remote I think it was £80ish. As for programming there's now plenty of people on here with Lexia's and there should be quite a few more by the end of this week.

[Rhothgar]

Hi Richard

Does a Lexia allow reprogramming of a Peugeot fob then? This is a DVLA seized car that I am looking at so it hasn't even got a KEY!!! So I guess that means I need a remote fob.

Birdman.

The keypad is to the right of the steering wheel in a drop-down compartment.

[spider]

If its keypad (on the right under that flap) then there is no transponder. , early models are keypad, later are transponder. If I remember correctly the changeover was late P plate although its possible for a P / R to be either but R is more likely transponder and P is more likely keypad.

The keys can be ordered from a dealer although no idea how much they are they have to be ordered ready-cut if I remember correctly with the key number (another £20 odd for the number if you do not have it)

[Rhothgar]

Hi Spider

Looks like I might be introducing a Pug into the household again. Damn shame it's not a D Turbo though!

The car is an R.

If I do not get any keys with the car, how on earth do I get a replacement? Do I just go to the Peugeot dealer with the V5C and they will know from the registration or VIN number?

[spider]

They will have to get the key number (as they come pre-cut) for which they will charge you.

Then they order the key to that number. This is in 90% of cases OK and works fine. You can either have a manual key or a remote key.

The only problem being if its ever had a new complete lock set then the key you ordered will not work. I'm wondering if it may be easier to obtain a complete lock set from a scrapyard and just fit it. Its a chance either way really, but I would be surprised if the ordered key did not work but there is that chance if its had a lockset for any reason. If you decide to go with scrappy lockset, ensure you get one from a N / P / R (remote has led on these if in doubt)

[spider]

If its any help these are some part numbers for "keypad" models. They are available blank I did not think they were "uncut" but oh well:

9926Y7 Uncut key (these are the earlier ones with a metal head built in)
9926Y8 Cut key (need keynumber) earlier one with metal head. These may of been discontinued now. Basically a plain metal key nothing else.

9926Y9 Master key (the key "blade" itself) uncut
9926Z0 Master key (the key "blade" itself) need keycode number to order this. Both of these need a "head" to fit into either remote or non remote.

9926Z1 Plastic plain "head" for the "master key" (master is the wrong term though there is no "master" as such)
9170L2 or 655LQ (not sure of number docs have a typo here) single button remote head.
6552LP twin button remote head.

Tip: LX / GLX / SRi / Exec had two button remotes, only base / L had single button apart from later LXS ones. Post pic of car if in doubt, need to see seat trim as well as outside.

There are more part numbers as you can order the "blade" and the "head" together too but I don't want to add to the confusion. Its best to go to the dealer with the V5 (and at least one other form of ID if not two) to see what they say.

[spider]

To cut confusion a bit, a a minimum you want the key number and to order either:

9926Y8 (need key number to order) a precut basic metal key

or

9926Z0 and a 9926Z1 (the key cut "blade" and a plastic non remote head)

[Rhothgar]

Many thanks for the codes and update.

I'll give Peugeot a call and a local locksmith guy who may be able to sort me out quicker / cheaper. I'm not in the market for traipsing around scrappers at the moment and changing locksets. I've got enough jobs to do on Sylvia's ZX and my Xantia.

[spider]

A locksmith might be able to build a key to the lock (you can do this with Fords for instance quite easily)

Had not thought of that, well worth a call they may be able to help you cheaper than elsewhere.

Before I forget, the keypad code will NOT be available from the dealer regardless as its customer changeable. So you'd need that to start it (1.9TD is reasonably easy to get around 2.1 / petrol units more trouble)

[Rhothgar]

It's looking like it is going to be a right pain. It is a petrol. I have the service.citroen work-arounds for the 1.9TD. Not sure how a Peugeot petrol immobiliser works. How long would it take to do the work-around.

I was looking to keep it initially - if I buy it but have since decided in the last few minutes that I'd probably sell it straight on. It's only £200 but no MOT either and that could open up a horrible can of worms. The car looks fantastic.

[Rhothgar]

Just spoken to someone who reckons it will need a key and an eeprom. Presumably, something to do with the keypad reprogramming? Guy I spoke to reckoned it would be about £150.

[spider]

Specialists can read the code out from the ECU / Texton (I think its called that the CPH module)

You might be OK it might still be 1111 or be set to 'auto' so it goes green immediately when unlocking (stays green for 30 secs to give you time to start it)

Its difficult to say tbh, an ECU from another car with a known code might help, there is the possibility of unplugging the cph box which *might* disable it but I'm not 100% sure on that. It certainly does disable it on some of them but not sure if it needs to be unlocked initially.

You might even find the keypad has been disconnected anyway as some owners found them a pain.

EDIT... Texton not Bitron (oops)

[Rhothgar]

Cheers Andy!