Help me make my mind up time then.

Unread post by **RichardW** » 15 Mar 2011, 12:29

The 1.9TD is way better than it ought to be with a mere 90 BHP - but you do have to rev it if you want it to go - pretty flat below 3k rpm. The HDi (in 110 guise at least!) is much much better (unless you want to run on veg oil of course!). Quieter, smoother, much more tractable, rarely needs >3k rpm. Suspension and brake parts are all more expensive of course. 65k put on my HDi so far - I'm hoping to get at least the same again.

Unread post by **Peter.N.** » 15 Mar 2011, 13:02

3k

I rarely drive over 2k

C.J. · Unread post by **C.J.** » 15 Mar 2011, 14:17

RichardW wrote:The 1.9TD is way better than it ought to be with a mere 90 BHP - but you do have to rev it if you want it to go - pretty flat below 3k rpm. The HDi (in 110 guise at least!) is much much better (unless you want to run on veg oil of course!). Quieter, smoother, much more tractable, rarely needs >3k rpm. Suspension and brake parts are all more expensive of course. 65k put on my HDi so far - I'm hoping to get at least the same again.

Twice.....I think....that that's been mentioned now.
I wasn't aware that the suspension and steering were different on the two models. I though it was just the engine and transmission.
Why was this then?

C.J. · Unread post by **C.J.** » 15 Mar 2011, 14:18

Oh, and tuning boxes were mentioned to uprate the HDi 90 to approx 110.
I presume this tweek isn't possible on a TD?

jgra1 · Unread post by **jgra1** » 15 Mar 2011, 14:39

Colin, on an XUD9 TD you can run a decat pipe, tweek the fueling and increase the turbo boost

every little helps..

John

C.J. · Unread post by **C.J.** » 15 Mar 2011, 14:43

jgra1 wrote:Colin, on an XUD9 TD you can run a decat pipe, tweek the fueling and increase the turbo boost

every little helps..

John

No doubt there will be mucho and many threads buried on the subject in here somewhere?
I am warming more and more towrds the TD, I must be honest, especially this low mileage with history and one owner estate one I've found in Exeter.

C.J. · Unread post by **C.J.** » 15 Mar 2011, 14:44

jgra1 wrote:Colin, on an XUD9 TD you can run a decat pipe, tweek the fueling and increase the turbo boost

every little helps..

John

No doubt there will be mucho and many threads buried on the subject in here somewhere?
I am warming more and more towrds the TD, I must be honest, especially this low mileage with history and one owner estate one I've found in Exeter.

Anyone from that neck of the woods fancy earning several beer tokens to go and give it a quick obnce over for me?

Not a full mechanics report, just a general condition one.

...and no. I haven't the foggiest why this ^^^ beacame posted twice either.

Unread post by **Peter.N.** » 15 Mar 2011, 15:15

Where abouts in Exeter is it?

MikeT · Unread post by **MikeT** » 15 Mar 2011, 16:29

jgra1 wrote:Colin, on an XUD9 TD you can run a decat pipe, tweek the fueling and increase the turbo boost

Indeed John, mine goes pretty well even with the cat while others without cat have seen 150hp+ on the dyno. With changes to the pump and turbo, over 200hp is possible

C.J. · Unread post by **C.J.** » 15 Mar 2011, 17:15

MikeT wrote:
jgra1 wrote:Colin, on an XUD9 TD you can run a decat pipe, tweek the fueling and increase the turbo boost
Indeed John, mine goes pretty well even with the cat while others without cat have seen 150hp+ on the dyno. With changes to the pump and turbo, over 200hp is possible

Got to be some sort of a monster of a turbo for that sort of increase surely?

Intercooler?

That's a staggering bhp increase,

but just how does the clutch and gearbox cope with that?

jacksun1987 · Unread post by **jacksun1987** » 15 Mar 2011, 17:15

This is very intresting ive been wondering the same qestion my self.
Hers another.
Whats the difference between the 1.7td in the bx and the 1.9td in the 405.
I thought they where the same engine. But how come one says 1.7td and the other 1.9td.

Mine bx is a 1.7td with a bosch pump. Say if i got a xantia or bx with lucas. Can i swap them round?
Everyone keeps saying how good bosch is to lucas.

THANKS

C.J. · Unread post by **C.J.** » 15 Mar 2011, 17:21

jacksun1987 wrote:This is very intresting ive been wondering the same qestion my self.
Hers another.
Whats the difference between the 1.7td in the bx and the 1.9td in the 405.
I thought they where the same engine. But how come one says 1.7td and the other 1.9td.

Mine bx is a 1.7td with a bosch pump. Say if i got a Xantia or bx with lucas. Can i swap them round?
Everyone keeps saying how good bosch is to lucas.
THANKS

Well if their fuel pumps are as good as their power tools and elecrtical household white goods, then I can see quite clearly why tbh.

I've been using a Bosch heat gun virtually evey day in my job for the last 4 years, and it's still going strong.
Quality gear.

jacksun1987 · Unread post by **jacksun1987** » 15 Mar 2011, 17:26

wow they are the same make.
Is the lucas the make where british layland have. I was watching clarksons car years. And in this old reaport. The bloke said theres a dispuite over at lucas. Do with wiper motors. So are they the same company. What did the britsish layland car firms.

thanks

Unread post by **Peter.N.** » 15 Mar 2011, 19:01

Just prior to the demise of British Leyland they had alternative suppliers of most electrical bits in order to try and maintain production when one was on strike, didn't help a lot though as they were on strike themselves most of the time.

Peter

Xaccers · Unread post by **Xaccers** » 15 Mar 2011, 19:12

RichardW wrote:The 1.9TD is way better than it ought to be with a mere 90 BHP - but you do have to rev it if you want it to go - pretty flat below 3k rpm.

Interesting, all my 1.9TD's have pulled from just over 2000rpm, the power really kicks in at about 2400rpm, it's one of the things that makes them quite special