I WANT AN XM !!!!!

harryjoe · Unread post by **harryjoe** » 20 Feb 2010, 21:54

Oooo can't wait

:
Away with you Magene, Hello XM

Soooo, the consensus seems to be that if i buy an auto, and have problems with it , is to dump it on Jims drive for him to fix

Excellent, would be another for your collection Jim !!,

Are they prone to problems the auto's , have had bad experiance with megane auto's , my misses, and my mums 2000 Scenic, pressure switch problems on hers cost over £400 to have it fixed, she'd only had the car a couple of months !!! Bought 2nd hand on ebay !

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 20 Feb 2010, 21:57

Yes and no..

If you get an auto that works correctly with good smooth gearchanges then KEEP on top of Gearbox fluid changes!!!

Use DEX 2 only, change it every 20k or so, maybee less and you should see a good service from it!!

Paul

harryjoe · Unread post by **harryjoe** » 20 Feb 2010, 22:00

Sorry Andrew, i had missed that one, could be cheap, but i agree with some of the comments about it, " no pics and not a particulaly good write up to sell it make you wonder, if it only needs a back box for an MOT, then why not stick one on it and give it half a chance of making a bit of money, i know i would,
keep my eye on it though.

nigel

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 20 Feb 2010, 22:06

harryjoe wrote: Are they prone to problems the auto's

Not the old hydro-mechanical 4HP18 on the XM range Nigel, providing you do as Paul says with regard to fluid and filter changes. Pretty much bomb-proof really.

Autobox trouble only really started to be an issue with the introduction of the electronic "sealed for life" autoboxes fitted to the PR V6 (very late V6 XMs only) and series 2 Xantias and others fitted with the Siemens AL4. They have a habit of dying at around 120-140K

I stress I only have (albeit considerable) experience of the PR V6 autobox (the 4HP20) and I've never been inside any other.

Deanxm is the 4HP18 specialist around here

He's had 'em in bits and know their foibles...

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 20 Feb 2010, 22:10

Unfortunally Jim, the HP 18 was a problem for the XM for some reason or another...

Which is why we lost a lot of cars in the first place.. Im uncertain if its because Citroen Never specified a Fluid service on the auto box so people never bothered.. and the rest is hostory..

Paul

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 20 Feb 2010, 22:17

citroenxm wrote:and the rest is hostory..

Ahh

Never knew that Paul

So they repeated that error again on the 4HP20 then

A case of plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose then

(The more things change, the more they stay the same)

harryjoe · Unread post by **harryjoe** » 20 Feb 2010, 22:25

So the best thing is to but an early one if it's gunna be an auto, or if later buy with a history of oil 'n' filter changes, or could alway lean towards deanxm

Sorry for being a pian, but just want to get this right from the start,
i'm saying i can't wait , but i never driven one yet

, but just love the look of them, so has to be the next purchase

nigel

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 20 Feb 2010, 22:32

GET one between K 1993 to 1994 M, these seem the best and have little to no issues with the suspension ECU's!

Paul

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 20 Feb 2010, 22:33

Let's face it, when any Citroen get's to the second, third (and so on) owner
most people's prejudices that's it's a worthless POS means the niceties of
gearbox oil changes etc are completely ignored. Now if the car was badged
with 4 rings, a star or a propeller no service job would be too expensive or
bother on the VISA card.

So. Guess what happened to all the V6 Xm's?
(Clue - 95% are powered through and autobox)

And staying with prejudices most non believers will just write them off as
being too big, complicated and thirsty too.

The remaining auto Xm's have either had TLC from the start and are probably
staying with the owner that presently has the car or by some sheer fluke are
managing to still provide forward motion - that is, right up until you buy it?

It may pay to drive one first - you may hate the handbrake and find
(like a fella on club-xm) that you don't even fit in the car! Sunroofs again...

Andrew

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 20 Feb 2010, 22:35

maybe it's time for me to brush the cobwebs off this too:

Andrew

harryjoe · Unread post by **harryjoe** » 20 Feb 2010, 22:41

Hey

Like your style,

yeh quite true what you say, Andrew , il'l have no probs with headroom, but must just go and kick a few tyres for a day, !!!,

Don't peole just hate that !!

Citroenmad · Unread post by **Citroenmad** » 20 Feb 2010, 23:08

I must have gone wrong somewhere, but im sure i read Andrew saying the best Xm is an automatic!

Andrew has it right (usually!), in my opinion a manual is the way to go with an Xm, ive finally decided. The xms auto box is nice, better than some automatics in my opinion. Regular oil changes are a must. Though they can fail and it gets costly if it does. A manual is a more reliable bet, so long as you look after the clutch it will treat you well. We have had our white auto Xm for 8 years now, granted its only done 22K miles in that time but its still performing fine at 86K miles.

We have a VW automatic which is failing. Ive just driven it for 70 miles this evening, i dont like this box at the best of times but it almost undrivable now. This one is not going into lock up sometimes and when lifting off to slow down it cuts out of drive and free wheels. Nightmare. Its soon to go in for repairs, quoted a minimum of £1400 upards. Wouldnt get that with a manual! Not that Xms give these problems, but they can play up in other ways.

There are a good few Xms for sale on ebay at the moment, im surprised. The grey one your thinking about looks very tasty. Not sure if you would consider an estate, but this looks good:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1998-CITROEN-XM-V ... 3caa4fd8d6

Despite its S1 nose cone its a tidy looking car from the picutres, good mileage for a 2.1 and auto too. Its got air con. Needs a litte work but will make a nice car.

Id be tempted to get a manual, just so your wife cant put her mark on it!

No but seriously, manual or automatic, both have their merits. We have one of each and i enjoy driving both. Depends what you prefer to drive, there are many automatic Xms around (probably more than manuals?) and i asume all which are advertised still drive. At one point you had to specify a manual box in an Xm, as an auto was standard. Towards the end of production i think.

There is certainly a good selection at the moment.

Our white one might be available soon as i say, cant decide at the moment as i do really like the car, but it gets the least use. Ill let you know.

As far as headroom goes, im pretty sure there is more room in the estate. Im quite tall and dont have a problem in the estate, though the roof is closer in the hatchback. Both cars have a sunroof.

citroenesque · Unread post by **citroenesque** » 20 Feb 2010, 23:13

andmcit wrote:maybe it's time for me to brush the cobwebs off this too:

Andrew

Count me in for a sticker!

harryjoe · Unread post by **harryjoe** » 20 Feb 2010, 23:19

Me Too

Proberbly get the b*****y sticker and the t-shirt before i get the car

Thank for that last post, YES please do keep me informed as to what you are going to do with the white XM, it's a lovely one !!

It would be going to a very good home, only used on dry days, and kept in a heated garage, ! how's that for a serious dose if Citroenitis then,

AND THE WIFE WILL NOT DRIVE IT !!!

What more could a man want ....

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 20 Feb 2010, 23:31

andmcit wrote:You may not have noticed this one too:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-XM-V6-SEI ... 0441845701

Not a sight you'll see every day or likely to see much of in the future either...

How can anyone considering an Xm resist a silver V6 SEi.
Mr Chadlow posted this:

and Robert Smart posted this:

here: http://www.club-xm.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1206

OK, possibly not as spangly and new, but what the heck, must be worth a
punt over the first £50quid to see if that's his reserve!?

Andrew