Ok, I think I got the idea. Thanks for the quick reply.citrojim wrote:No, just fingers. Release the rod from the wishbone and bushes and then manipulate the rod so the cup is pulled over to the very edge of the ball and then give it a sharp push to roll the cup further off the ball. The cup will then pop off the ball easily. This is very hard to describeKoukku wrote: Does it need some special tool?![]()
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I finally got around to changing the parts today. Thanks again for the advice. One thing I noticed was that the new control rods didn't come with those rubber/foam seals that are supposed to keep dirt away from the ball link. I used the ones from the old rods, although they aren't that tight anymore. The ball links didn't seem to have worn at all though, so I guess it's not an issue.
The old pads had worn shapeless, and the rods were quite thin where the pads clamp around them. I'd say that the rods had gone through a few pair of pads in their lifetime. I think I will be cleaning the pads every now and then, and replace them at the first sight of wear... they're cheap, and rather easy to change, atleast compared to the control rods.
And what a difference in ride. I thought that the handling had been pretty impressive, but now it's really beyond belief.

The old pads had worn shapeless, and the rods were quite thin where the pads clamp around them. I'd say that the rods had gone through a few pair of pads in their lifetime. I think I will be cleaning the pads every now and then, and replace them at the first sight of wear... they're cheap, and rather easy to change, atleast compared to the control rods.
And what a difference in ride. I thought that the handling had been pretty impressive, but now it's really beyond belief.
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Those seals are metal to metal Mike and being the same metal, should not be subject to dissimilar metal corrosion issues.
Which end is leaking?
All I can suggest is that for a quick fix you take the pipe right off and give it all a good clean-up and reassemble. A bit of PTFRE tape on the thread maybe for a quick fix?
I'm thinking the leak may actually be from the flexible part of the pipe where it is crimped onto the metal feurrles at each end. I've seen the rubber pipes going to the front strut tops weep at the junction where the rubber pipe joins metal pipe on hydractive cars. Give the pipe a really good clean and observe very carefully. It's surprising how LHM can "creep".
Pleased the balljoints are OK now. As long as they have a hint of grease in the cup, they'll be fine.
Which end is leaking?
All I can suggest is that for a quick fix you take the pipe right off and give it all a good clean-up and reassemble. A bit of PTFRE tape on the thread maybe for a quick fix?
I'm thinking the leak may actually be from the flexible part of the pipe where it is crimped onto the metal feurrles at each end. I've seen the rubber pipes going to the front strut tops weep at the junction where the rubber pipe joins metal pipe on hydractive cars. Give the pipe a really good clean and observe very carefully. It's surprising how LHM can "creep".
Pleased the balljoints are OK now. As long as they have a hint of grease in the cup, they'll be fine.
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Yes, certainly a high pressure pipe! Full system pressure there..
Best to swap it for your spare. Still, it's good news the ram itself is OK
This Document will help you set up the roll corrector linkages. It's big so may take a few tics to download on my slow connection.
I tend to find the rods are adjusted more or less correctly when the ball-ends of the rods are both pointing dead vertically up and the car rides level. If one (or both) are leaning then it's not quite right even though the car may be riding level. It's important to equalise out any adjustments you might make on both adjusters (items 3 of fig3 on the linked document) so that they remain equal.
Hope that helps a little...
Best to swap it for your spare. Still, it's good news the ram itself is OK
This Document will help you set up the roll corrector linkages. It's big so may take a few tics to download on my slow connection.
I tend to find the rods are adjusted more or less correctly when the ball-ends of the rods are both pointing dead vertically up and the car rides level. If one (or both) are leaning then it's not quite right even though the car may be riding level. It's important to equalise out any adjustments you might make on both adjusters (items 3 of fig3 on the linked document) so that they remain equal.
Hope that helps a little...
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Hi all,CitroJim wrote: This Document will help you set up the roll corrector linkages. It's big so may take a few tics to download on my slow connection.
Interested in this document but the link doesn't seem to work anymore and I can't find it on the index on that site?
Anyone know how to still get at it?
Thanks
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Re: Best way to fix my Activa ?
http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... 20&t=29374" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; , not the document in question but it will give you the info you want.
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Brilliant!
Thank you - I hadn't come across this thread on my travels around the forum!
Thank you - I hadn't come across this thread on my travels around the forum!
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Cant help but notice you have a BLACK Activa, pretty rare colour, not sure ive ever heard of a black one before............
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Re: Best way to fix my Activa ?
Very rare that - I think Andrew might have a Black one with the "Activa" private plate?
AND those rare CX GTi Turbos too! Any more info, pics etc for us to drool at!

Sounds a nice collection you've got there...
AND those rare CX GTi Turbos too! Any more info, pics etc for us to drool at!
Sounds a nice collection you've got there...
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Re: Best way to fix my Activa ?
Yep, I've never seen another one, eitherDeanxm wrote:Cant help but notice you have a BLACK Activa, pretty rare colour, not sure ive ever heard of a black one before............
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Either red or silver in my experience.
It was another reason why I was keen to buy this one when it came up some years ago (despite the many, many problems it had) ...
Looks good in black IMO, too - if only it worked as well lol
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Haha, yep. A nice collection of projects! (Sadly none on the road)Citroening wrote:
AND those rare CX GTi Turbos too! Any more info, pics etc for us to drool at!![]()
Sounds a nice collection you've got there...
I don't have any pics actually - must sort some out!
The Activa's the next project (now).
Hopefully one of the CXs next year - it's been FAR FAR too long since I was behind the wheel of one of them on the road. My gf's really keen on that idea too (yes, really!!!)
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'85 CX GTi Turbo s1 (met. blue)
2x '85 CX GTi Turbo s2 t1 (met. silver & grey)
'88 CX GTi Turbo s2 T2 (met. light blue)
CX DTR T2 Safari (silver)
2x '96 Xantia Activa (Black & met. green)
'01 C5 2.0 HDi LX Estate (Blue)
'11 C5 X7 3.0 V6 Exclusive Tourer
Iain
'85 CX GTi Turbo s1 (met. blue)
2x '85 CX GTi Turbo s2 t1 (met. silver & grey)
'88 CX GTi Turbo s2 T2 (met. light blue)
CX DTR T2 Safari (silver)
2x '96 Xantia Activa (Black & met. green)
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Re: Best way to fix my Activa ?
Yes, very rare!Deanxm wrote:Cant help but notice you have a BLACK Activa, pretty rare colour, not sure ive ever heard of a black one before............
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Andrews is the only one I have heard about until this one, never heard about a black S2 Activa though.
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Re: Best way to fix my Activa ?
Well good luck with the projects when you get around to doing them - as you know it'll be worth it after the work.wurlycorner wrote:Haha, yep. A nice collection of projects! (Sadly none on the road)
I don't have any pics actually - must sort some out!
The Activa's the next project (now).
Hopefully one of the CXs next year - it's been FAR FAR too long since I was behind the wheel of one of them on the road. My gf's really keen on that idea too (yes, really!!!)
Pics would be great to see, out of interest what colour/s and spec are they?
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