What's it worth (Sorry!) and suggestions

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What's it worth (Sorry!) and suggestions

Post by Toby_HDi »

Right due to spiralling fuel costs even my HDi is getting to much to run, so I'm thinking of selling. Just wondering what it is worth:

X reg Xantia 2.0 HDI (110) SX
135,000
MOT til Feb and will have 6 months tax next week
No service history but goes superb.
Usual SX equipment, air con, steering controls, electric windows.
couple of superficial bits need doing but hasn't worried me. Might need spheres doing.
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What am I likely to get for it?

Secondly, any suggestions as to a replacement. I am considering downsizing, possibly even getting a small petrol, don't want to go too small though. I'm looking for something thats economical, cheap to run (tax, insurance, spares etc), cheap to buy and comfortable on long runs. Any suggestions?

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To be honest I can't think of many bearable cars that do much better mpg than the Xantia HDi.
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I'm looking for something thats economical, cheap to run (tax, insurance, spares etc), cheap to buy and comfortable on long runs. Any suggestions?
Another Xantia :?: :D


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Post by lexi »

You`re asking a lot of your next car. Can`t see what`s cheaper than 40 plus to the gallon of Hdi. Maybe a Lupo diesel. Yaris Diesel......not cheap though to buy. Any car is worth what someone will pay.........and it`s a buyers market.
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Post by Toby_HDi »

This was what I was thinking. I know for a fact my HDi will do 50mpg+ I just wondered if there was something else out there.

Is it really worth the hassle of buying a 1.9TD and using veg oil (or similar)?

Lupo and Yaris are too small, I am not the smallest of people lol. Like you say, too expensive to buy. I was just toying with the idea. Just thought maybe something in the lower tax band would be better.

And come on people give me suggestions :) Would £900 be asking too much?
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Post by Penguin »

lexi wrote:........and it`s a buyers market.
Not sure it is at the moment Lexi. Diesels seem to be holding their value pretty well at the moment as people strive to go further on each litre.
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Post by davek-uk »

I'm not sure if it's downsizing, but you can't go far wrong with a Berlingo. The 1.9 diesel will do 45 mpg, you've lots of space, they are comfortable and only group 4 or 5 insurance. I don't know for sure but I guess the 1.9 will take veg oil too. Multispaces tend to keep their prices fairly well but there are loads of 1.9 diesels about.

You are going to be pretty pushed to beat a HDi Xantia for cheapness. Newer diesels are all common rail too - so veg oil is out. For other HDi models look at the Xsara and Berlingo Multispace - you'll save sphere costs and get lower insurance rates but will have to spend more to get one. The old TDi engine is good on fuel, better I think than the HDi. But VW and Seat keep their prices - as do Skodas now. And I dont think you'll save much here.

Basically, if you still want a big car and good mpg you're stuck with a diesel. You can save money on:
  • getting a low insurance group;
    saving hydro suspension costs;
but it'll cost you money to change and if you want a lower tax bracket it'll either cost you more to get a newer diesel or cost you fuel charges if you get a newer petrol.

The only real way is to completely downsize your car. I had a tight spell some years back and ran a diesel AX for a couple of years - now that's cheap motoring!
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Post by nick »

Personally I would just keep the Xantia. With veg oil at the prices its at now it doesn't really make sense to swap from an HDi to a XUD purely to run on veg. I used to get around 42-45 mpg from my XUD turbo Xantia, in comparison to 51-55 mpg from the HDi Xsara. The Xsara is slightly lighter than a Xantia, but not significantly.
Veg oil would have to get much cheaper to counteract that sort of reduction in mpg.

You will struggle to get better fuel consumption, and a better car generally than the Xantia HDi, without spending quite a bit more money.
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Post by Peter.N. »

I would agree with the 'keep it' lobby. If you have a car that is reliable and you know the history of, why risk buying another that you know nothing about and might end up costing you money. You certainly wont find a petrol vehicle of anything like that size and comfort that will even approach that sort of mpg. If I were to downsize from the XM, I would go for a a pre 2000 Citroen or Peugeot with an idi engine - much cheaper to repair and diy friendly.
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Post by lolingram »

Likewise... the HDi can get as good as 50mpg.
To be honest I can't think of many bearable cars that do much better mpg than the Xantia HDi.
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Post by lolingram »

I would hazard a guess that given recent hikes in Veggie price, the considerable added thirst of a 1.9TD would nullify any benefit...
This was what I was thinking. I know for a fact my HDi will do 50mpg+ I just wondered if there was something else out there.

Is it really worth the hassle of buying a 1.9TD and using veg oil (or similar)?
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