Xantia 1.9TD Aux Belt Auto Tensioner Problem

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PicassoPigeon
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Xantia 1.9TD Aux Belt Auto Tensioner Problem

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This is about the spring loaded tensioner like the 2.1
My auto tensioner has snapped off :evil: . The main bolt that holds the roller and bearing to the whole hp pump,alternator bracket has sheered off leaving part of the bolt still in that main bracket.
:shock: HELP :shock:

Will this ever come out or is it a trip to scrapman for a new to me one.Why would this part snap off like that, would it be caused by running with too small a belt or over tightening of the bolt when first fitted.

What fun i am having NOT :evil:

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With a bit more dismantling the alloy plate should come off, it bolts into that right? then you have a chance of getting the broken bolt out, it just means that the fuel pump and HP pump have to come off, its quite a hefty bolt, perhaps metal fatigue from the belt slapping about for all those miles (my Xantia is the same)
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With any luck the remains of the bolt should come out without too much trouble. It is unlikely to be really badly corroded in that position as it has had a staple diet of LHM and oil mist to keep it free for a few years.

I'm with Stewart on the fatigue. It is a very heavily loaded item. That spring is STRONG and with the A/C running and the alternator working hard it is going to have had a hard life.

When you reassemble, check very carefully that all pulleys and jockeys are running in-line, especially the alternator. There are subtle differences in the various alternators and one difference is the distance betwen the pully and mounting lugs. I had to replace a perfectly good alternator on my Activa because the pulley was out of line. Any out of line running will cause increased stress on everything.
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Ok bolt half is now removed. Got a new spring and tensioner but no bolt and nut to hold the spring on to the tensioner.
Also got a new crankshaft pulley £56 +vat from GSF hope its the right one but again never came with new bolt.
Should i go to Dealer for the bolts that i will need?

Ah now that i have new spring I also cant remember what way around it should go. It has a bearing on one end, does this attach to the tensioner or the main alternator bracket.
Note to self, must take digi pics next time i start something. :oops:
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Yes, I would because of the loading on these.

pr.net (service.citroen.com) is back so it'll be easy to get the part numbers you need.
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The pics on the link in this thread might help. The bolts will be quite cheap, and the crank bolt comes ready loctitied - make sure you use the old bolt to clean the threads out first though!
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Does anybody know what the torque setting should be for these bolts?

Thanks for your help, I dont want to over tighten them.
gav425
2002 Citroen Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
125,000 miles