Choosing coil spring / strut brand

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Choosing coil spring / strut brand

Post by RustyUK » 13 Jun 2018, 22:14

Hi guys, been a while! Most of my motoring DIY life I had hydraulic Cits, so I've never had to deal with a bread-and-butter job like changing a coil spring.

Until a front one snapped on my C5 X7 yesterday. Bah.

Looks like a straightforward job (excellent video changing one on the Peugeot 407 on youtube) although compressing it terrifies me.

My dumb question is, what brands should I choose, and does it even matter? Several names available, most commonly Sachs, KYB and Monroe. Do we know who the OEM manufacturer is?

I imagine the spring probably performs much the same whatever the brand, but are there differences in the build / performance of the struts? I sort of feel like I should change it while I'm at it.

I've always rather liked the X7's handling and ride comfort, not quite hydraulic level comfort but closer than other 'normal' cars. I don't want to put something shoddy in there and compromise it :)

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Re: Choosing coil spring / strut brand

Post by GiveMeABreak » 13 Jun 2018, 22:48

If you want part numbers, we’ll need a VIN as most of here with X7s have hydraulic versions.

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Post by RustyUK » 13 Jun 2018, 23:41

Thanks, I have a copy of docbackup so have the part numbers, I really wondering if there's any go-to aftermarket brands or any that should be avoided - working on the assumption that the price of the PSA springs / shocks won't even be worth my time asking about!

Confusion more-so with the shocks, it's difficult to tell if there's differences in the way compatible units are constructed. eg varying combinations of "twin tube", "spring bearing damper", "damper with rebound spring" - maybe this is all the same thing - and then Monroe to name one brand seem to do "Original", "Reflex" and "OESpectrum" designs - all these physically compatible, but I have no way of knowing if these differences really matter, or how they compare to stock in terms of performance and longevity. Whatever brand/design stock is. Or whether one brand is reputationally (is that a word?) better lasting then any other (including with springs, there's some cheapies I might not expect to last well - but I don't know).

I do still miss my old MK1 C5. Might get a tourer with hydraulic suspension some day, particularly now we have a dog, but that's a whole other train for thought for another time!

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Post by GiveMeABreak » 14 Jun 2018, 00:13

Well they all seem to be different types of spring for sure (colour marked and based on engine and options), so must be different tensions or something. OEM springs are about £80 depending on options and struts from about £97 again variable on model.

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Re: Choosing coil spring / strut brand

Post by bobins » 14 Jun 2018, 06:47

When I replaced a broken one on mine a couple of years ago I fitted a Sachs spring. I can't say they are the best or the worst of the bunch, but it's still working and I haven't noticed any difference at all in handling.

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Post by wurlycorner » 14 Jun 2018, 09:27

I've replaced all the springs in my ex's C2 and both front dampers in the last six months. I spent a long time researching what was available.
After spending a lot of time on the modding scene (jap cars) I have a good understanding for what are decent brands and which aren't.
If you can get KYB springs for the c5, go with them - they're quality (that's what I have put on the c2).
For shocks there are a bewildering range of brands out there these days, most of which are actually generic Chinese crap and best avoided.
If you post up any springs/shocks you see that take your interest, I'll be happy to give my opinion and whether that's based on my previous knowledge / research, or 'gut feel'

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Re: Choosing coil spring / strut brand

Post by RustyUK » 15 Jun 2018, 19:00

It was a KYB or Sachs spring I was considering, although Kilen seems to crop up a lot. For the shocks, there's plenty here I'm wondering about!

https://www.euspares.co.uk/parts-catalo ... B100%5D=VA

Likely the KYB or Sachs again, but the Monroe ones pique my curiosity. The three variants are Original (claim to match OE spec), then Reflex then OESpectrum in ascending order of performance. TRW are a name I trust for brake parts but they do two models. Most others I've not even heard of.

To be fair I probably don't strictly need to replace the shocks, time permitting I hope to get the old spring off this weekend then assess whether it's worth replacing more than just the spring. But if there's other shock/springs that can give me a smoother ride over stock parts, I'm not against swapping both sides now!

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Re: Choosing coil spring / strut brand

Post by bobins » 15 Jun 2018, 19:05

From memory, you need to detach the drop link to do a spring / shocker and in my experience, if you disturb a well used drop link it'll soon start rattling once you put it all back and have done a hundred miles or so. My recommendation would be to keep en eye out for a cheap genuine Citroen drop link - don't go for a 'no name' brand or one of Eurocarparts finest :wink:

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Re: Choosing coil spring / strut brand

Post by RustyUK » 15 Jun 2018, 19:14

Yes quite true, to be honest I'd be surprised if I get the drop link off without obvious damage anyway. I've had mostly good results from Febi and Lemforder links and joints on other cars. Only issues have been on a particular 307 that mysteriously eats ball joints and drop links. And that damn car's still in the family.