Any way to get around ‘Economy Mode’?

[ozfrog]

My wife’s 2011 year model 3008 is in a state of not starting. (Cause is as yet unknown.)

But the immediate problem is that both front windows are open and the car is in Economy Mode.

I know that the battery is in good condition. Well, I replaced it earlier this year, so I’m presuming that it’s fine.

Thanks for any help you can offer me.
Andrew

[wurlycorner]

Other than starting it, my only thought would be to try a 'BSI reset'.

[Paul-R]

I don't think that would work. I have noticed that when I have my diagnostic machine on my 308 that it can reactivate the display whilst testing. That may then allow you to close the windows.

If that works, please let us know. You may need a mid to high end machine though.

[wheeler]

Try locking the car with the remote & keeping the lock button pressed in, this sometimes puts the windows up.

[PaulC5]

If the car has not been running for some time the battery might need charging, check its voltage, should be 12.7 if fully charged, below about 12.5 volts and it could do with charging.

At worst you could remove the door cards and put 12 volts direct to the window motors to close them - I once did this on a Picasso when a maxi fuse failed but at the time did not know why the electrics were not working.

[ozfrog]

It’s a recent problem.

The car was driven on Thursday evening last week, we stopped at a shop to buy some things and came back to the car less than 15 minutes later and the car wouldn’t start.

By the time road side service arrived, it was well and truly dark and the ‘mechanic’ couldn’t see anything so he ordered a tow home for us.

Now that it’s at home, we have been having heaps of rain and thunderstorms and the boss is not impressed that her car is potentially getting soaked inside!

I’ve heard that some models of the 3008 have auto windows when the car is locked, but I didn’t know how it was activated. Thanks for the information!

We still don’t know why the car isn’t starting …

[RichardW]

Might be possible to override the Econo mode or wind the windows up as an activation test with a diag tool - you're going to need one anyway to find out why it won't run! Otherwise, strip off the door cards and apply 12V direct to the motor.

[ozfrog]

Otherwise, strip off the door cards and apply 12V direct to the motor.

There’s no chance of that happening in this household. My wife wouldn’t trust me that much.

Might be possible to override the Econo mode or wind the windows up as an activation test with a diag tool - you're going to need one anyway to find out why it won't run!

I do have Diagbox attempting to run on a Windows laptop that might have been built around the same time as Stephenson invented the steam engine. Me and Windows are not known for getting along well with each other, but I’m willing to let bygones be bygones, provided Windows will do the same. Do you think it can be trusted?

I’ll have my first attempt at the car in about 11 and a half hours. That seems like a long time away. But it’s just after 2200 hours on Tuesday here, and I won’t get to the car until at least 0930 on Wednesday, and that will be only for a short time. I have an appointment at the doctor. And I’m sure you all have experience with how prompt they can be. It’s a shame that we can’t send them a bill for keeping us waiting for them. But I have digressed.

Tomorrow …

[ozfrog]

I have noticed that when I have my diagnostic machine on my 308 that it can reactivate the display whilst testing.

It does that on my 307 and it did the same on the 3008 this evening.

That may then allow you to close the windows.

I think I misunderstood what you meant when I read this before. Whatever I did or didn't understand, I definitely didn't try to close the windows when the test was being carried out.

If that works, please let us know. You may need a mid to high end machine though.

High end machine? Please elaborate.

(The computer I have Diagbox running on might have been ''high end" in the 18th century, but I doubt that it's been considered "high end" at any time since then. However, I don't think that's what you're referring to. But I also don't know what you are referring to!)

[ozfrog]

or wind the windows up as an activation test with a diag tool

I did go looking for something like that, especially in the 'pre-delivery checks', but elsewhere also. I couldn't find anything, but that isn't to say that it isn't there. I don't claim to be infallible.

[ozfrog]

Try locking the car with the remote & keeping the lock button pressed in, this sometimes puts the windows up.

Tried it.

Didn't work, unfortunatley.

[ozfrog]

Sorry about so many posts. I used to know how to reply to different posts from other people in my one reply. But either my memory has failed me very badly, or this isn't the same board software that I've previously used. Or possibly a conbination of both - different software and my failure to remember how to do it.

Now, I performed a global test and unsurprisingly, there are multiple errors, but I can't get the software to give me details about the faults, plus I've forgotten how to get the messages to print to a file. I did what I thought was the correct method - and it promptly crashed Diagbox with a Run Time error. So I had to redo all of the Gloabal Tests and I still can't remember how to get the detailed information about each item that has an error next to it, and nor can I remember how to print these report to a files.

In case it's important right now, there are 3 faults being reported in the BSI
4 faults being reported in the engine ECU
1 fault in the Engine relay unit
1 fault in the parking aid - we knew about that, but we don't know what to do to fix it
It tells me that there is a fault with the radio - but we've never observed one. I really don't know what to say about that!

And that's the end of me for tonight.

What next? I don't have any ideas

[wurlycorner]

Taking photo's of the screen and posting them on the forum, is the simplest way with diagbox, I find.

[Paul-R]

High end machine? Please elaborate.

(The computer I have Diagbox running on might have been ''high end" in the 18th century, but I doubt that it's been considered "high end" at any time since then. However, I don't think that's what you're referring to. But I also don't know what you are referring to!)

I meant that a £25 simple engine code reader might not activate the system sufficiently. A Diagbox should be sufficient. My Xtool D8W certainly wakes the system up,

[ozfrog]

My Xtool D8W certainly wakes the system up,

I'd hope that that's high end enough to wake anything up! That's a little shy of $1000 AUD

Yikes