1.6hdi oil change - suction method?

[GiveMeABreak]

I can tell you that depending on the level of sludge already in the engine, even after several flushes, it won't always be enough to get rid of it. So prevention is better than cure

[Andle]

Question:

Can anyone provide the most recent & updated updated bulletin published on this issue please. If it saves this car - it will make a major difference to my year ahead.

[GiveMeABreak]

There is no such official document. I think you are over-thinking it - just drain the oil using whatever method you choose - you've seen the various comments about both systems - so your choice. The car is now 14 years old, so it's not like you are going to be able to prevent any damage that has already been done.

[Andle]

Car's going in to be looked at by PTS very soon.

Looking for some guidance before its handed in.

Can I ask if there is an aftermarket solution to the oil sump depression issue/problem.

Are there aftermarket oil sumps available that solve/address this problem?

Are there any other types of solutions that I don't know about?

If the car is going in and getting repaired - he will have to take the factory sump off anyway.

Makes sense to replace it with a permanent solution there & then?

[Andle]

Friends seriously - after all my posts I'm close to resolution. When the car goes in the sump & other oil supply parts are going to be removed. If there are improved designs available - i'd rather they go on now.

I need to know if there are better solutions out there for the oil sump and the oil pickup etc.

Does anyone make an improved aftermarket parts?

[bobins]

Here's a video of someone doing a very simple modification to the sump plug.
There's an unbelievable amount of scope for things to go wrong, but it seems to have worked for them

[ksanturion10]

Make sure the oil is hot

[Andle]

I'm sure there is and aftermarket sump pan - that fixes the recessed plug issue:



Ignore that its not in eng - keep watching towards the end. The new sump pan being fitted - drain is flush with base of pan so ALL oil is removed.

Is there one of these available for my car?

[moizeau]

If you're really adamant to clean all the old 'sludge' out, that may not even be there, why don't you get the sump removed, cleaned, new gasket, replaced and then keep up with oil changes, must be loads easier and a lot cheaper.
Yes, there is a bit of bad press on these engines but as you are aware only problems get highlighted on forums etc., no one shouts about their car that's running great. There are millions of these engines in circulation and the vast, vast majority are fine. Living here in France I know a lot of people that run the engine without issue. I agree preventative maintenance is a good thing but depending on the value of the car, it's only worth going so far. Don't over complicate things and look for issues that may not be there.

[Andle]

I accept what you're saying.

I'm moving to the next stage - opening it up for discussion.

Are there improved & redesigned aftermarket parts that help fix/address these design issues?

E.g is an oil pan available that allows ALL oil to drain.

Is there an improved oil pickup that doesn't get so easily blocked?

Is it better to completely remove the banjo bolt mesh filter (even the revised design) all together? If it gets blocked - the turbos gone anyway - why not risk without?

[GiveMeABreak]

As to your last point - it's a trade off....

Some will say better to remove the filter altogether in the banjo bold and at least allow lubrication to get to the turbo (along with any crud), and others may tell you to leave it in there and keep checking it regularly along with more frequent oil changes to reduce the risk of particles being recirculated back into the system, getting stuck, carbonising and blocking.

Age of the vehicle and state of the engine as it currently is will play a part in anyone's decision. Obviously if the car was new, then frequent oil changes and checks to the injector bolts would be a sensible preventative measure. For an older car that you don't know the history of and without taking the head off and looking at the state of the oil channels, you won't really know.