AX 1.5D starting probs

[Xantidote]

Ah, progress, of a sort. Would explain the difficult starting.

By shims, I'm assuming you mean for the valve clearances? It's quite possible someone on here (FCF) will have some floating around, so worth considering putting an entry under WANTED, but better wait till your mechanic knows what thicknesses he needs. Also depends how much Citroen want. Possible that you may be able to re-use one or two shims by moving them to different valves. It may be hard work, but I've reduced the odd shim on my 1.9 XUD engine by rubbing them on 1000 grade Wet & Dry, with white spirit, but it's tedious and only really worth it if you're only looking for 1-2 thou.

Hope this sorts the starting

[CGATCX25GTITURBO]

Diagnosed as no compression in 2 cylinders. I've given him the go ahead to replace the shims.

Is there anything I should know about the best way to get them quickly, or are they something that take ages to get. Citroen part only????

service items if not on stock, available next day..Citroen or pug parts will do.... easy peasy on them, no need to take the cam out.. a c spanner or similar should do it.

[citronut]

if i havnt already posted this here is a list of shim sizes and part No.'s

0906 62
99
ADJUSTING BALL
EP 2,225

0906 63
99
EP 2,250

0906 64
99
EP 2,275

0906 65
99
EP 2,3

0906 66
99
EP 2,325

0906 67
99
EP 2,350

0906 68
99
EP 2,375

0906 69
99
EP 2,4

0906 46
99
EP 2,425

0906 70
99
EP 2,450

0906 71
99
EP 2,475

0906 47
99
EP 2,5

0906 72
99
EP 2,525

0906 73
99
EP 2,55

0906 48
99
EP 2,575

0906 74
99
EP 2,6

0906 75
99
EP 2,625

0906 49
99
EP 2,65

0906 76
99
EP 2,675

0906 77
99
EP 2,7

0906 50
99
EP 2,725

0906 78
99
EP 2,75

0906 79
99
EP 2,775

0906 51
99
EP 2,8

0906 80
99
EP 2,825

0906 81
99
EP 2,85

0906 52
99
EP 2,875

0906 82
99
EP 2,9

0906 83
99
EP 2,925

0906 53
99
EP 2,950

0906 84
99
EP 2,975

0906 85
99
EP 3

0906 54
99
EP 3,025

0907 07
99
EP 3,05

0907 08
99
EP 3,075

0906 55
99
EP 3,1

0907 09
99
EP 3,125

0907 10
99
EP 3,15

0906 56
99
EP 3,175

0907 11
99
EP 3,2

0907 12
99
EP 3,225

0906 57
99
EP 3,25

0907 13
99
EP 3,275

0907 14
99
EP 3,3

0906 58
99
EP 3,325

0907 15
99
EP 3,35

0907 16
99
EP 3,375

0906 59
99
EP 3,4

0907 17
99
EP 3,425

0907 18
99
EP 3,450

0906 60
99
EP 3,475

0907 19
99
EP 3,5

0906 61
99
EP 3,55

and here is the price of one shim

Part Number Description Quantity Price excl. VAT Price incl. VAT Total incl. VAT Selection
0000090671 ADJUSTING BALL 2.95 GBP 3.54 GBP 3.54 GBP

[falling-out-with-my-car]

Blimey that list makes me want to go out and change my engine oil and filter Phewwww!!!

[citronut]

ignor that list of shims it was a senior moment as they are for an XUD lump not the TUD5,

i cant find a list for this engine

[spider]

ignor that list of shims it was a senior moment as they are for an XUD lump not the TUD5,

i cant find a list for this engine

Will check give me 5 minutes

[spider]

DIESEL TUD5

0907 2508EP 3,20
0907 2608EP 3,25
0907 2708EP 3,30
0907 2808EP 3,35
0907 2908EP 3,40
0907 3008EP 3,45
0907 3108EP 3,50
0907 3208EP 3,55
0907 3308EP 3,60
0907 3408EP 3,65
0907 3508EP 3,70
0907 3608EP 3,72
0907 3708EP 3,75
0907 3808EP 3,77
0907 3908EP 3,80
0907 4008EP 3,82
0907 4108EP 3,85
0907 4208EP 3,87
0907 4308EP 3,90
0907 4408EP 3,92
0907 4508EP 3,95
0907 4608EP 3,97
0907 4708EP 4,00
0907 4808EP 4,02
0907 4908EP 4,05
0907 5008EP 4,07
0907 5108EP 4,10
0907 5208EP 4,12
0907 5308EP 4,15
0907 5408EP 4,17
0907 5508EP 4,20
0907 5608EP 4,22
0907 5708EP 4,25
0907 5808EP 4,27
0907 5908EP 4,30
0907 6008EP 4,32
0907 6108EP 4,35
0907 6208EP 4,37
0907 6308EP 4,40
0907 6408EP 4,42
0907 6508EP 4,45
0907 6608EP 4,47
0907 6708EP 4,50
0907 6808EP 4,52
0907 6908EP 4,55
0907 7008EP 4,57
0907 7108EP 4,60
0907 7208EP 4,62
0907 7308EP 4,65
0907 7408EP 4,67
0907 7508EP 4,70
0907 7608EP 4,72
0907 7708EP 4,75
0907 7808EP 4,77
0907 7908EP 4,80
0907 8008EP 4,82
0907 8108EP 4,85
0907 8208EP 4,87
0907 8308EP 4,90

Don't know what the 08 is about, the part number is 0907xx depending on thickness as far as I can tell. List is a bit messy but accurate as far as I'm aware.

[CGATCX25GTITURBO]

DIESEL TUD5

0907 5508EP 4,20
0907 5608EP 4,22
0907 5708EP 4,25

I have one each of these, and quite a few of the other, 11mm dia types

[spider]

Mines just started to do this as of yesterday although I've identied the cause as one completely dead heater plug and the leakoff pipework is slightly damp around injector 3 as well. *parts ordered*

Does still cold start although after an argument, moreso as I don't have a fast idle cable (no where to fit one! thermostat housing is not drilled) so it will cut out if left to attempt to idle at 800 rpm. Little choice but to use it but plugs will be here tomorrow so I'll pop them in when they arrive.


How is your progress going ? Have you had the clearances reset yet ?

[3ps]

Just picked it up this morning. He said it started on the button, but it isn't that cold really. Will check it out over the weekend.
2 shims were replaced.

Also had a rocker cover leak seen to while it was easy.

With this fix, new battery and new glowplugs, hopefully I will have no winter worries!

[Xantidote]

Fingers crossed for you

Did he tell you what the valve clearances were before he adjusted them? Or how far out they were?

[spider]

Let us know how it is when it gets a bit colder over the next few days (well, probably it will get a bit colder)

[3ps]

Fingers crossed for you

Did he tell you what the valve clearances were before he adjusted them? Or how far out they were?

I can't remember the units, but if one shim was marked as 43.5 then I think he was saying it was 40.5
I wasn't really following the technical aspects TBH.

[3ps]

Heavy enough frost this morning. Had to clear the windscreen with some warm water.
The car started pretty much straight away, after 1 go of the glow plugs, so it is cured!!

There is one different however.

Before being fixed, the car might take an age to start, but once it did the idle was a smooth as a baby's bottom. Since the cold weather it splutters a bit after starting. Not going to worry about it too much just yet!

Thanks for all the tips and advice. Another AX kept on the road.

[spider]

Excellent.

Is the idle speed higher when its stone cold ? , on your's it should idle a little bit higher than normal when its cold for a few minutes until the waxstat in the thermostat housing releases the fast idle cable, although it will work without it it will just attempt to idle a bit slow for a couple of minutes.