Davie's french attraction.

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Zelandeth wrote: 14 Mar 2018, 19:19 You couldn't make this up.

I was actively digging through my boxes of old computer stuff for an 80387 math co-processor at the weekend!



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daviemck2006 wrote: 14 Mar 2018, 16:50 But the tech at the first garage claimed to be ex Citroen and must have been over 60 and to know his way around xud engines and fuel pumps, so should have known.


Are you 100% sure it's not just the leak-off pipes? These can give the impression of leaky injectors. Certainly did on RUNN when I owned it. A fiver for a set on eBay and 5 mins to fit them.
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I've been awake all night. That's what happens when I am doing a midnight to 8am on a helpline and have to stay awake for the phone. I haven't looked at Gabbys fuel leak yet, but I have a set of injector seals, leak off pipes and fuel pump seals so have everything I need to sort it. It's probably going into the space where Shauns blackbug is once it gets going, where it will get the leak sorted and possibly perpared and painted if I can get his space long enough. I have also decided that big pug is going to get towed to a garage to see if I can get it going, then cleaned up and sold. However her MOT is in May so if it gets going it will need a test too. Lilpug also needs a good clean, it will soon be time for it to start attending local events. I was surprised that she did 6000 miles in the year I have owned it! I certainly did not think I had done that many miles in it, but then I do so many miles with visiting family and shopping and going to my meetings it mounts up. This is the use that Gabby is now doing, lilpug not moved for a month, big pug only done 2000 miles in the year, and whitebug covering the work miles which is about 200 to 250 a week. I am keeping accurate fuel records for it, it has returned 44.6 mpg for the entire mileage since I got it, about 2400 miles in 9 weeks. Some of the lads on the c1OC claim to get 75 or 80 mpg from them. I have one word for that - BOLLOCKS!!! My usage is mostly around town, but my original one which got a 45 mile commute, then 45 mile home never over 55 mph and all gentle country roads averaged 55 mpg over thousands and thousands of miles, so I suppose 44.6 isn't bad for the use mine gets now. By the same thing some of the lads on the c1OC claim they are faster than every BMW and Audi on the motorways! Well that's easy if said BMW and Audi cars are keeping to speed limits :rofl2: :rofl2:
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daviemck2006 wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 06:16Some of the lads on the c1OC claim to get 75 or 80 mpg from them. I have one word for that - BOLLOCKS!!!



Yes, it is... Best I ever managed from mine was 71mpg and that was on a trip to Somerset and back one time when I was really ill and barely exceeded 40mph anywhere...

I'm sure those C1OC lads don't drive like old grandads so yes, definitely BOLLOCKS!!! as you say :twisted:
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I did once on my first one get 69 mpg going to my sister's and back in one day. 400 odd miles never over 50mph on dual carriageway and motorway wasn't fun though and more mentally exhausting keeping speed that low in a baby car and every arctic and coach passing me!
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Average I got out of mine over 9 years ownership and 63K miles: 46.7mpg.

So a fair ways from the 70mpg in the handbook! Exactly the same we used to see from the C1 pool cars at work.

I think the next revision from mine got different engine management firmware with improved economy a little and got rid of the annoying 4000rpm flat spot mine had.
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I aim to get 200 miles out of 20 quid in mine, which at today's price works out at 55mpg. I usally achieve it too, though on a recent round trip to Huntingdon I got that down to 42mpg, but had it indicating over 90 in all but the average speed controlled zones
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Mine is the same as yours Zel, as is Shauns. His replacement engine came out of a 2012 car, which was the year that that next revision took place. I wonder if that's why we can't get it going. I've told him to put in his original coil packs, and take every sensor off his old engine and fit them in place of the ones on the replacement engine. Then he will have all the electrikery bits that he had before, and just changed the mechanical bits he wrecked. If it still don't work then I will be stumped!

Anyway I can't complain at an average 44.6 from mine considering the use it gets. It is used hard, but not abused. It spends about 1/2 it's life in 1st or 2nd gear!
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LOL, 1st and 2nd, it will think Jim is still driving it :)
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I probably get faster in 2nd than Jim's cruising speed :rofl2: The little things can do 34 in 1st and 65 in 2nd, 98 in 3rd! If you believe the young lads that get 80mpg while overtaking every BMW and Audi on the motorway they will get to 1/2 way through the fuel gauge which will correspond to about 125 :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:
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daviemck2006 wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 17:24 I probably get faster in 2nd than Jim's cruising speed :rofl2:


Oh yes, definitely :lol:
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Jim when he is CYCLING exceeds his DRIVING cruising speed!!!
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Hell Razor5543 wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 19:36 Jim when he is CYCLING exceeds his DRIVING cruising speed!!!


And when I'm running ;)
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Yep...I managed to get north of 50mpg driving the thing ultra economically, but that's really not how this little three pot engine is best appreciated I reckon, it seems to thrive on revs.

Not best for economy, but far more fun.

I always was going to look into whether it would be possible to get anything more out of the 107 by fiddling with the firmware (not least due to the aforementioned flat spot), never got around to looking into it though.
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Zelandeth wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 20:42 Yep...I managed to get north of 50mpg driving the thing ultra economically, but that's really not how this little three pot engine is best appreciated I reckon, it seems to thrive on revs.

Not best for economy, but far more fun.



Agreed :D It also applies to the little 3-pot, although it's nowhere near a patch on the C1/107 unit, in my Pixo..

It's such fun to really rev it through the gears and that three-pot snarl is quite additively lovely!
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