C5X soundproofing

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Re: C5X soundproofing

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MattBLancs wrote: 08 Aug 2025, 14:57 Can see various sides to "car modification" - there's a group minded to make cars lighter, faster, stop and go better (and Colin Chapman's "add lightness" mantra kicks in with luxurious sound proofing seen as unnecessary dead weight)

There's automotive audiophiles who want the minimum background noise and maximum (usually quality but sometimes quantity) output from the car's audio.

There's a group who just want the most serene effortless transport possible (and the hydropneumatic Citroens cover aspects of that like nowt else!)

There's even Ecomodders who'll seek to optimise their vehicle (and driving style - sometimes borderline dangerously: tyres at 60psi tailgating lorries isn't sensible to me!)

Oh, and there those obsessed with bloody "stance", "lows" and stretched sidewalls who are making a car literally terrible at being a car, in pursuit of that particular visual style.

I've time for aspects of all but the latter! :)
For the avoidance of doubt I'm a serenity guy :)

Agree on your last grouping, surely nobody over the age of 21 would be at all interested.
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DS9 wrote: 08 Aug 2025, 17:59

I read once somewhere that the 19 inchers were only going to be for the UK because of our love for large alloys and other places would get the 17s. That said I can't find a picture anywhere of one on 17s.

The 17s are a decent price, the 19s cost about 50% more. https://citroen-shop.eu/gb/470-wheels?o ... loy+wheels

I'm convinced it'd rise even better but not sure how it'd look though. The 19s do look quite nice even if I've discovered they do have plastic inserts.
Look for a picture of one with winter tyres, as most of these are 17" - they don't look too different either, and ride will definitely be better, more side wall give.
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I looked on a French site yesterday, they have a few on 17s. Not sure it suits the car.

https://www.ooyyo.com/france/c=CDA31D71 ... 9213.html/

My Dodomat arrived late last week and we we're off away so I was limited for time. Just put 2 layers down in the rear of the boot floor (not around the battery) and also went into the rear boot sidewall on the passenger side. Was quite easy to get off. I was surprised when I felt around there is something around the rear wheelarches, decent white fluffy stuff maybe around 1cm thick and denser than what I've found elsewhere. I did put more in though where I could fit some in and on the back of the plastic. Didn't have time to do the other side but the difference is noticeable tapping the plastic once reaffixed. Tried to post a short mp4 clip under 20mb but the site wouldnt let me.

The 2 areas I now think are a problem are.

1) The doors. Sound like big drums to the tap test. Then there is the plastic sills at the bottom which still fail the tap test from underneath even when closed and touching the seal. Looking from the inside of the door there is 2 round stick over covers at each end of the door at the bottom, I havent looked behind yet but these are probably screw/ bolt points. It could do with a bit of a "sandwich" making there to improve that. Then there's the doors in general, not sure I'll go that far, and depends on what luck I have with the plastic sills.

2) The plastic "underbelly" trays I suspect throw up a fair bit of noise. These run from maybe a foot behind the front wheel to a foot in front of the rear wheels so on a 2.8m wheelbase are circa 2m long. The tap test sounds hollow. I think they'd benefit from dodomat with closed cell foam on top. I did these on the DS9 and while I didn't test before and after it probably helped. They should be easy to get to.

EDIT: forgot to say 215/65 17's vs 205/55 19's are 4.9% wider and have 25% more sidewall. Diamater and circum are almost identical and have 0.4% variance.

EDIT2: Drove 175 miles from sheffield to Central London last wkend. Flat traction battery at start and no Esave. Av mpg was 51..... absolutely fine with me.
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This is an easy job. The bonnet. Took under an hour.

When I put the oem cover back on you can't notice any difference.

Edit: by the way the sandy highlights in pic3 is not dirt just reflection of a wall in front of the car.
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Video/sound clip: easiest to put it on YouTube then post a link here
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Hello, new owner of C5X having previous a C5X7 and I must admit that the new C5X is more noisy on the drivetrain. One of the reason are the factory tires, Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 205/55 R19 97H which have 71db. This year I changed the tires with Michelin CrossClimate 2 205/55 R17 95V with only 69db and there is a difference but comparing with the old C5X7, the noise make by the tires is higher. I saw many post on social media where is stated that the noise is due to the width of the tire.
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Just thought I'd give an update as I haven't for a while. I did ad-hoc sound deadening bits at my own pace.

I did the final rear wheel well some weeks ago, so thats all 4 done.

I also did half of the boot at the rear with 2 layers of dodomat, it's quite thin stuff so the big insert still fits back in the same place and is hardly raised. I didn't want to cover the battery.

Regarding the bonnet, my previous DS9 had the same size engine, albeit 225hp rather than 180hp and when I fitted one of these to it https://www.dodomat.com/products/dodo-bonnet-liner the engine was almost inaudible after that minute or 2 when the higher revs subside. You really had to listen for the engine at tickover. The mat covered it all and is 10mm thick.

With the less comprehensive alternative in the C5X, pics above a few posts ago, I think it had some effect, but perhaps not as much as I'd like. I think I'm inclined to put another layer on first rather than go for the thicker mat. I'll think about it. It could be the bulkhead isn't as soundproofed as the last car? Obviously the difference I'm after isnt a comparison at tickover but say at motorway speed when the difference will be more stark.

In my opinion there are 2 more things left remaining, and these perhaps despite the improvements I have done thus far could make the most difference at the end of the day. Im still thinking noise from the road is higher than it should be and far more so than the DS9.

1) In the DS9 it had a plastic undertray like all cars have, mainly to protect the undercarriage and to aid aerodynamics. But this came in kinda 2 halves on top of each other, both trays with lips with the edges end to end, so the bottom tray face up and the other face down on top. This created a little gap inbetween of about 2-3cm. In the DS9 i did put a fair bit of sound deadening in here, hardly complete but enough to make a difference and stop it being just one big resonating drum.

In the C5X it's just 2 single plastic undertrays per side, a long one from the front wheels to about 2/3's of the way to the rear wheels and then another for the remining 1/3rd. Unlike the DS9 it isnt double skinned. I think if i dropped this down and just put a single thin layer of dodomat on top it'd make a lot of difference but its awkward to get to so I've paused on it. With a lift like in garages it'd be a lot easier.

2) The doors are like big drums to the tap test and I've looked a bit and decided I don't want to be invasive and try and take the door cards off. At the bottom of the doors are the plastic surrounds and they go down and under the car....and rattle a bit. I've found on the front doors behind the circular 4cm plasters (took em off with tweezers) are 2 nuts, I think if i take then off the plastic will come away (going to try this tomorrow). There is definitely a circa 6-8mm gap between the plastic and the metal and I want to fill that. I think what happens is the noise enters through the plastic and then travels up the door. If I can reduce this at source then it should improve things.

After reading all this back I do think perhaps the undertrays are going to be the big win. They must cover about 3sqm of the undercarriage in total and any slight improvement to something of this size should make a marked difference.
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I did the undertrays, didn't totally take them off but just unscrewed 6 nuts/ bolts per side, dropped it down and put sound deadener and closed cell foam in.

The doors were an easier quick win. To the tap test the plastic sills sound horrendous. What I did was buy 5mm deep 50mm wide closed cell foam on a roll with an adhesive back. This is wider than the sill. Then I cut the adhesive back about a third of the width in. This part I kept the backing on, pushed it into the gap (it doesn't stick) and then slowly peeled off the other strip of two thirds width and this sticks to the sill. The difference is profound to the tap test and I think makes a big difference for the sake of a tenner and an hour's labour.

Taking off the plastic sills seemed problematic, there are e tea studs in them so I gave up.