Relay 2.2 DPF cleaning keep vehicle moving

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Re: 2014 2.2 Relay P14BE limp mode

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I'm not getting that as a valid code unfortunately. Is this the Ford Puma 130 engine?

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Re: Relay 2.2 DPF cleaning keep vehicle moving

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Hi all,

So after replacing the 5th injector it came up with errors so took it for a diagnostics at a Citroen specialist. They basically told the ECU that it's had a new dpf and run a stationary regeneration. This worked for about a week and now I get a P15BE error after the engine warms and drive for a little while. I basically am having to clear this and tell the van that it's a got a new dpf and it works for a while then the error comes back. I've bought a new dpf but before fitting I'm wondering could it be something else just in case it's something silly that's causing it.

The error code points to a fuse that apparently keeps blowing but have checked the fuses and everything seems to be ok.
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Re: Relay 2.2 DPF cleaning keep vehicle moving

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I can't help you without a VIN, which I've asked for previously and also, please confirm what the error code is P14BE or P15BE? as you've quoted both.
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Re: Relay 2.2 DPF cleaning keep vehicle moving

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Hi sorry,

Vin is VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

Code is P15BE.

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Re: Relay 2.2 DPF cleaning keep vehicle moving

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Just a quick update. I ended up just replacing the DPF as I couldn't have the van off the road. Have just finished changing which took longer than expected but all done. Hopefully this fixes the issues will report back if anything changes.
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Re: Relay 2.2 DPF cleaning keep vehicle moving

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Further to my last message. The P15BE error has returned. :x Is anybody able to shed some light?
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Re: Relay 2.2 DPF cleaning keep vehicle moving

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The van has started the DPF cleaning keep the vehicle moving. Then went into limp mode with a P1490. Ran a stationary regeneration after clearing the errors and it worked for half an hour then the DPF cleaning has come back on. I've read about a fuse but can't see anything related to the 5th injector.
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Re: Relay 2.2 DPF cleaning keep vehicle moving

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Hi Danny, Have you found out what was the reason of that fuse popping up? I’ve been having the same problems for last week.I had replaced the vaporiser and DPF but the engine goes into limp mode with this PE15BE fault. It’s a disaster! I’ve spent almost a grand and still can’t use my van.
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Re: Relay 2.2 DPF cleaning keep vehicle moving

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dannys1984 wrote: 06 Apr 2022, 08:50 The van has started the DPF cleaning keep the vehicle moving. Then went into limp mode with a P1490. Ran a stationary regeneration after clearing the errors and it worked for half an hour then the DPF cleaning has come back on. I've read about a fuse but can't see anything related to the 5th injector.
There are more parts tot he code (you are missing 2 from the end), but both 149068 & 149092 relate tot he conditions for regeneration are not being met.

Here's an example of the P149068 code
Fault Code: P1490 68
Description of Fault: Particle filter: Driving conditions for regeneration of the particle emission filter not fulfilled. Detection of a particle filter overload: The difference in particle filter pressure is above a maximum threshold.
The soot load is greater than 16 g/l.
The time of appearance of the fault code is 5s.
Conditions for Fault to clear: -
Downgrade Modes whilst Fault is active:
  • Switching to fuel "normal reduced flow" mode
  • Prohibiting of regeneration of the particle emission filter and stopping of the requests in progress
  • Request for closing of the EGR valve
Symptoms:
  • No effects immediately perceptible to the customer
  • Lack of power
  • Starting problem
  • Fluid leak/smells (diesel fuel, oil, etc.)
  • Smoke from the exhaust
Suspect Areas:
  • Tappings for the differential pressure sensor of the particle emission filter
  • Electrical harness
  • Connectors
  • Particle filter upstream temperature sensor
The other P149092 code is similar, but symptoms include Jerking/stalling, Lack of power, Starting problem. Suspects are the tappings for the differential pressure sensor of the particle emission filter; Catalytic converter / Particle filter.

So if you've checked the sensors and tried regeneration (noting that if it is actually fault P149068 specifically) then forced regeneration is prohibited. It may be time for the filter to be changed or deep cleaned ( I think you mentioned you have one but not fitted it yet). I'll report back on the other fault code shortly.
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Re: Relay 2.2 DPF cleaning keep vehicle moving

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Again, there are 6 parts tot he fault code, so I am putting the only 2 coming up with P15BE:
Fault Code: P15BE 72
Description of Fault: Particle emission filter plug relay: Jammed open. The time of appearance of the fault code is 3s.
At least one of the following conditions must be fulfilled:
  • With the engine running
  • Ignition on
  • Vehicle in motion
Conditions for Fault to clear: At least one of the following conditions must be fulfilled:
  • With the engine running
  • Ignition on
  • Vehicle in motion
Downgrade Modes whilst Fault is active:
  • Switching to fuel "normal reduced flow" mode
  • Request for closing of the EGR valve
  • Prohibiting of regeneration of the particle emission filter and stopping of the requests in progress
  • Deactivation of regeneration of the after-sales particle emission filter, both static (vehicle stopped) and dynamic (vehicle on the move)
Symptoms: No effects immediately perceptible to the customer
Suspect Areas:
  • Electrical harness
  • Connectors
  • Plug of the vaporiser for injection of fuel at the exhaust
  • Fuel injection at exhaust sprayer

Fault Code: P15BE 73
Description of Fault: Particle emission filter plug relay: Stuck closed. The time of appearance of the fault code is 3s.
The Fault Code is activated when at least one of the following conditions must is fulfilled:
  • With the engine running
  • Ignition on
  • Vehicle in motion
Conditions for Fault to clear: At least one of the following conditions must be fulfilled:
  • With the engine running
  • Ignition on
  • Vehicle in motion
Downgrade Modes whilst Fault is active:
  • Switching to fuel "normal reduced flow" mode.
  • Prohibiting of regeneration of the particle emission filter and stopping of the requests in progress.
  • Request for closing of the EGR valve.
  • Deactivation of regeneration of the after-sales particle emission filter, both static (vehicle stopped) and dynamic (vehicle on the move).
Symptoms: No effects immediately perceptible to the customer
Suspect Areas:
  • Electrical harness
  • Connectors
  • Plug of the vaporiser for injection of fuel at the exhaust
  • Atomizer for injection of fuel at the exhaust
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Re: Relay 2.2 DPF cleaning keep vehicle moving

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Thanks to littleoldsuzi for the great images. Managed to sort out my faulty fuel injector the other day.

A word of warning to anyone else, the threads get knackered in there so I'd advise buying an m20x1.5 injector tap before carrying out the job. Laser Tools sell one. Unfortunately I didn't have one, so jammed the injector in there. Expensive lesson and ruined fuel injector threads!

Unfortunately following the fitting and priming, and then subsequent DPF clean, the DPF clean keep moving light went off for a bit then came back on.

I had my DPF cleaning person come back out and they have confirmed the vehicle still says there's a fault with the injector. Previously during the clean he also said the temperatures were showing a bit weird.

One thing I wasn't too sure about putting it back together is which wire plugs into which temperature sensor. There's the blue and green plug, but no indication of which is which on the cables running into them. Can anyone advise on a way for me to know I've plugged it together right
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Re: Relay 2.2 DPF cleaning keep vehicle moving

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Josephxtian wrote: 17 Dec 2023, 07:43 Thanks to littleoldsuzi for the great images. Managed to sort out my faulty fuel injector the other day.

A word of warning to anyone else, the threads get knackered in there so I'd advise buying an m20x1.5 injector tap before carrying out the job. Laser Tools sell one. Unfortunately I didn't have one, so jammed the injector in there. Expensive lesson and ruined fuel injector threads!

Unfortunately following the fitting and priming, and then subsequent DPF clean, the DPF clean keep moving light went off for a bit then came back on.

I had my DPF cleaning person come back out and they have confirmed the vehicle still says there's a fault with the injector. Previously during the clean he also said the temperatures were showing a bit weird.

One thing I wasn't too sure about putting it back together is which wire plugs into which temperature sensor. There's the blue and green plug, but no indication of which is which on the cables running into them. Can anyone advise on a way for me to know I've plugged it together right
There is a chap on TikTok (I think it may be O' Rileys Auto's) where certain vans required a new wing mirror (well, technically door mirror) as the ambient air temperature sensor is built into the mirror and if it packs in, it plays havoc with the DPF as the system needs to read ambient air temps :roll:

Several people had vans into various places where they fired the parts cannon, but the DPF issue remained. One new mirror later, management light off, engine sweet again! A mirror though #-o Why can they not just allow the sensor alone to be replaced :roll:
Has anyone seen the plot? :?