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[Citroening]

Im pretty sure a diesel Xantia weighs around 1300, its not heavier than a C5!

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Xantia HDi Hatch : 1436 kg Kerb Weight.
Xantia HDi Estate : 1484 kg Kerb Weight.
Xantia V6 : 1468 kg Kerb Weight.
Xantia Activa : 1410 kg Kerb Weight.

[Stepto1]

1250-1450kg depending on which model of Xantia.

Lift the bonnet of a Xantia and it weighs a ton compared to a modern car, one of the reasons why I like them so much.

The doors are very heavy too. Citroen was going for quality when they built the Xantia and went for heavy, strong bodywork.

I'd love to think a 15 year old Xantia in real world conditions was only 7mpg off the world record which was achieved on a perfectly level oval test track by a modern VW designed and set up for a record attempt.

But I just can't. ;-(

[Citroenmad]

Im very surprised by those weights and they are different from the ones I found online. Ill have to try and dig out a brochure now

Heavy they may be, but that doesn't make them safe

A C5s bonnet is aluminium, thats where they win with the weight you see

[Stepto1]

To be fair, that's what Wikipedia says! Lol! Sounds about right to me though.

Just had a look at an original Citroen brochure for a Xantia HDI 110 in SX guise.

37.7mpg-Urban
49.6mpg-Combined
60.1mpg-Extra Urban

Now when was the last time a car firm was conservative about mpg figures???

[Citroenmad]

Are you sure the record is 74mpg? I had a 2002 Seat Arosa 1.4TDi at one point, I had 74mpg from that on good, long and steady motorway runs on more than one occasion.

It would appear odd, though how can so many people be calculating mpg wrong, it must be somewhere near to being close

[Stepto1]

I just googled 'world record mpg saloon'.

If you look at the top tens of mpg in production cars theres very little over 70mpg.

People always like to think they're getting great figures.

As I have said, most cars over read speed and miles making figures inaccurate.

It's really very hard to work out an accurate figure. You have to trust the pump, your speedo and your odometer.

I just brim my tank, do the journey, brim the tank, check the mileage shown, adjust by the percentage that I know it is out and then work out the mpg.

The best I've ever managed is around 50mpg in a Pug 106 1.5 na diesel.

I stand by 40-50mpg is about right for a car like a Xantia with an HDI engine.

After all, Citroen claimed 60.1mpg was the best it could manage....

[DickieG]

The best I've ever managed is around 50mpg in a Pug 106 1.5 na diesel.

Crikey, lead foot driving, room for improvement there

[Stepto1]

He he! I do like to arrive where I want to be in the quickest time possible!

When I get given 48 hours leave for the weekend and I've got 262 miles to do I do not hang around.

I keep my car clean, as light as possible, tyres inflated and try to drive at a steady if quick speed.

I think I may do a mega economy run next time, 60mph all the way just to test the old girl.

I predict 50mpg at most.

[Citroenmad]

I think I may do a mega economy run next time, 60mph all the way just to test the old girl.

I often have this thought, it never actually gets further than being a thought as my lead boots take over every time

[Stepto1]

Lol! I forget as soon as I have a 1.8 BMW up my behind.....

[CitroJim]

it is a lot less stressfull to just amble along, you get there nearly as quickly but a lot more relaxed.

Absolutely and utterly agreed Peter That's very much my style of driving...

Less mechanical wear and tear comes in as a nice bonus...

Not only do you save on fuel but on things like brake pads, clutches and tyres when you drive like this..

[citronut]

I've had 870 miles on a 1.9TD! Wish I could get that driving around town.

get you cylinder head gas flowed/ported, my last workshop landlord ported mine whilst i had it apart doing the head gasket,

i had this done on my old N/A D BX a few years ago, it drove quite well before hand but after the head job she had lots more get up and go and was happy driving at 30mph in 4th gear, not realy much more top end though,
she also drove on a sniff of derv don't know the figures though

[Sulla]

I was following the old hypermiling techniques when I did the trip up to Newcastle, which may also account for the good mpg. The old feather touch on the accelerator pedal and not braking too often makes a big difference. It was also dry for the entire run which meant less resistance on the car when it was moving.

Keep your car well maintained and serviced regularly. Some people opt for a thinner oil when trying to optimise their MPG. Thinner oil means less energy is required to turn the engine. MY PHILOSOPHY WITH MY CAR IS NO EXPENSE SPARED SO I CAN SAFELY SAY IT IS WELL MAINTAINED.

Remove excess weight i.e. golf clubs, tool boxes and prams / push chairs. ONLY THING IN THE CAR WAS A SMALL SUITCASE

Ensure your tyre pressures are correct. We do not condone over inflating your tyres, as this may cause premature wear and possible blow outs. Low tyre pressure causes more drag and thus less MPG. TYRES CHECKED THE DAY BEFORE I SET OUT

Keep the windows up. An open window cause drag WHO OPENS THE WINDOW ON THE MOTORWAY

Keep the air-con off. Air Conditioning can decrease your fuel consumption by up to 10 percent in some cases. AIR CON NOT REQUIRED

Take any unused Roof or bike racks off, they too increase drag DONT HAVE ANY

Don’t drive in big shoes, they take away the sensitivity you need with the throttle. The best way to Hypermile is to feel how the car is responding to your right foot. Two inches of sole doesn’t help. I DONT OWN ANY BIG SHOES!

Drive defensively. Anticipate the road ahead. By driving “reactively” You effectively hand control over your fuel consumption (and safety) to other drivers. Look well ahead so you’re aware of what you’re driving into and can anticipate changes before they occur. And in order to be able to see well ahead, you need to leave adequate following distance to the vehicle(s) in front of you.

Drive without brakes (DWB). Every time you brake you effectively turn fuel into heat & brake dust. This type of deceleration maximises uses your car’s stored momentum and energy.

Slow down! The faster you go the more drag and resistance is placed upon your trusty steed. A reduction of 20mph can increase your MPG by up to 45 percent.

Coasting. Shutting the engine down when stopped or while coasting to stop/turn is one of the main reasons for hybrid vehicles’ excellent city fuel consumption. Simply remove your foot from the accelerator when approaching a junction or red light. A modern engine uses no fuel at all when coasting in gear.


Bear in mind I filled to the brim (several clicks on the fuel hose) but even if I had managed to get another litre in my MPG would have worked out at 65 mpg!

[Rhothgar]

Sulla. A man after my own heart.

Someone who really cares about eco-driving.

What mileage has your Hdi got on it as a matter of interest?

My 1.9TD now has 143k and I have had 54mpg out of that. 870 miles on 73.13 litres. There could not have been anymore fuel in it. I think the Series 1, although it states 65 litres on the fuel gauge has that plus, I reckon, 8 litres reserve.

Stated fuel economy for Extra-Urban on a 1.9 TD is 53.5 mpg.

My journey did not consist of 100% extra-urban driving so I was mightily pleased.

[Sulla]

Hi Rhothgar

My HDi is a 1999 with 134800 odd on the clock. I got her in 2006 with a full service history and around 69k on the clock for £2k (bargain). She get a full service every year (around 10k intervals) and a major service every other year. In that time she has needed a replacement gear linkage, replacement crankshaft pully and new battery terminals. Everything else was regular maintenance.