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Deanxm wrote:see where you went wrong there is you turned it off, ive got a list waiting on this machine, i havnt turned it off in months :twisted:

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And people wonder why their computers become unstable or slow :P

We've got a director at one of the companies I work for, was complaining certain things weren't working like the Fn F4 to select external monitor.
Her computer hadn't been rebooted for over a month, she just suspended it.

Set your computer to auto update at a time when it's going to be on, or put it to sleep so it wakes itself up and installs the updates.
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Xac wrote:Her computer hadn't been rebooted for over a month, she just suspended it.
Sounds fine to me. I always try to put my laptop into hibernation so that everything's ready for me when I resume later on. I've never really timed how long I can keep it going for but I would guess about 3 - 4 weeks before an MS update or clumsy powerlead work forces a reboot.
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It strikes me that computers are a bit like cars. Every time technology improves to give more power there has to be more bloat added so you're no better off.
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Paul-R wrote:
Xac wrote:Her computer hadn't been rebooted for over a month, she just suspended it.
Sounds fine to me. I always try to put my laptop into hibernation so that everything's ready for me when I resume later on. I've never really timed how long I can keep it going for but I would guess about 3 - 4 weeks before an MS update or clumsy powerlead work forces a reboot.
Bad Paul, bad!
While windoze can be happy hibernating, many 3rd party programs and especially drivers are not, leading to a slow unstable system until the next reboot.
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You'd think so, wouldn't you. And yet, despite Windows' memory leakage problems it'll work fine for several weeks. I'm prepared to put up with the very slight slowdown in the system over this period as it's not very noticeable.

I'm running XP so it's quite lean in its need for resources. I also have 2GB of Ram (the max that the board will allow) to help. I often have three IE windows open with up to 10 tabs on at least one of them, together with a few explorer windows for folders and my genealogical program loaded.

It should fall over every other day but it doesn't.
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Windows itself is normally fine with going to sleep regularly, so if you close down the programs and don't have any system tray applications which aren't happy with sleeping then you should be fine for quite a while, my Vista laptop actually thinking about it now rarely gets rebooted.
But when you've regularly put it to sleep with 30 emails open, 14 large excel spreadsheets, umpteen dozen word documents, it starts to complain a bit.
It's great though when a user moans that they've done all this, something has stopped working, and you say to them "well reboot, or if you can make it to the end of the day, just shut down" and they moan about having to do that!
She's using a Toshiba R700 laptop so it's quite spritely
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Xac wrote:and don't have any system tray applications which aren't happy with sleeping then you should be fine for quite a while,
That could be the reason. I'm ruthless in pruning down unecessary programs using msconfig and regedit to stop stuff loading that I don't want.
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CitroJim wrote:One thing I noticed with XP was that it god slower and slower with each major update. It's almost as if the additional code and changes added has made the whole OS a bit inefficient.

Windows 7, if reinstalled on a PC that formerly had a fully patched XP installation is very noticeably faster. Bu then I recall XP in the early days being very fast on much less powerful hardware.

I guess Win 7 will suffer the same fate as time and service packs go by.

XP has had it's day and Win 7 is a good OS.

I agree with IE. I detest it. I thought IE9 offered a hint of promise but it was empty. It leaks like a seive and still is nowhere near as functional as Opera.

Funny that Microsoft just can't do a decent browser :twisted:

and .NET. Why? What's wrong with Java and PHP? They're both far superior.
Just seen this on The Register that appears to be in full accord with your views on browsers Jim.

I could never get Opera to function for more than a couple of hours on this laptop, might be time to try again.
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My son's HP printer that I gave him a few years ago went into meltdown. I had another HP here, came with a computer system I bought a couple of years ago and gave to my daughter. It has sat on the shelf for over two years.

As HPs work well with Linux, I said he could have my Brother PCS and I would put the HP to use (partly as the cartridges tend to be expensive)

Dragged it out of the cupboard, spent a day or two trying to find the power supply, plugged it in and tried the copier thing (not connected to the computer)
It made interesting grinding and whistling noises then spat out a piece of greyish paper.
It was some sort of setup instructions with loads of barely discernible lines and a few hieroglyphics on it - the main thrust being that the ink was dried up.

Ordered replacement inks which then sat unopened on a shelf for three weeks.

Decided to press it into service the other day.

Plugged the USB lead into the computer and went to the printers folder to install it - and there is was, installed. Twenty seconds and nothing to actually do other than click the Test Print button :)
No installation disks, no questions, no downloading stuff, just there!

Test page was crap, as expected, so pulled the old inks and set about inserting the new ones.
Black - no problem, straight in.

Colour wouldn't fit. Tried the old one, straight in. New one, no chance.
Then realised that there is a blocking bar on the top to prevent insertion of an incorrect cartridge and it was identical to the black one.
Got in touch with the vendor and it appears that I had erroneously selected a 'photo enhancer' cartridge, not a colour cartridge. Something I had never heard of.
Apparently it replaces the black cartridge to improve the colour reproduction in photo printing.
New colour cartridge on it's way :roll:
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HP are annoying, some of their drivers are a PITA, others just work. One of the small laser printers has it's drivers built in, so you do just plug it in and it all works.
As they use Citrix at several of their sites printer drivers are important, for it to work smoothly they need to be Citrix compatible. Try getting our sales team to understand that!
Consiquently they regularly have printing issues where they get sold a printer that really doesn't want to work to it's full potential.
Add Windows 7 to the mix (thankfully they've only got a couple of them, they're sticking with XP for now, but that brings a whole load of issues with having to rebuild new PCs out of the box and hunt down drivers which HP no longer supply), and that HP decided rather than updating their drivers they'd just write a universal driver which isn't universal and it can be a nightmare.
Ironically the cheaper Brother printers tend not to have any issues.
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Brother one is fine with Vista and there are Brother support pages and drivers for Linux but they are rather tortuous and I have procrastinated with installing them since the last Ubuntu version was installed six months ago.
I have previously had two HP printers attached to the Linux machine and they always worked satisfactorily but not quite perfectly. Installation was simply picking them from a list. Installation on XP and Vista was much more involved.
I should get a Postscript printer really.
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I always found HP inks to be over priced, although with the head being part of the cartridge the advantage is if you don't use the printer for ages and it gums up, you just buy new cartridges.
Personally I prefer Epson printers, particularly for photos.
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I had a couple of Epson printers but gave up on them as they were quite unreliable for me, I replaced them with a cheapie Lexmark and haven't looked back since, three years down the line and its still working fine, for Photo's I have a Canon Pixma 9500 MK11.
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Yes Canon's are lovely for photos, a friend of mine has an A3+ one that I have access to should I wish :)
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Xac wrote:Yes Canon's are lovely for photos, a friend of mine has an A3+ one that I have access to should I wish :)
My Canon does A3+, I bought it earlier this year when Canon were doing a £100 cashback offer, a bit of a bargain at the time.
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