I WANT AN XM !!!!!

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 19 Feb 2010, 21:54

I can get 35 - 38 from my CT engined car on a run and the Activa is reckoned to be less economical than when in the XM so yes, I can see 40 as being feasible... You do need to be a bit restrained though.

Best was in my old MK2 Activa, M1/M25/M2 to Dover. 70 all the way, 39mpg.

With a 2.1TD you should see more like 50...

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 19 Feb 2010, 21:58

Fair enough in a Xantia Jim...

50 mpg in early 2.1 TD XM's is fairly easy, with the manual box.. though later cars with auto box's drop it to about 42.. then epic drop it even more..

But as far as epic goes its only what Ive been told.. S2 cars are heavyier so the extra weight drags the MPG down a bit with an auto box. Though, prooved by Peter, S2's with manual box's are rather fugal..

Paul

Toby_HDi · Unread post by **Toby_HDi** » 19 Feb 2010, 22:10

Mine isn't too bad. Not entirely sure of a figure but doubt I'll be seeing 40, I like to use that torque...

The trip from here to Jim's uses about 1/4 of a tank IIRC.

Talking of diesels. You'll see 60mpg from an HDi on a run without really trying although that was never fitted to the XM. Probably could if you wanted to

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 19 Feb 2010, 22:11

Yea Toby, I know the HDi's are brill, As long as they are the 110bhp lumps... the 90 bhp units aren't as good on fuel

Paul

Toby_HDi · Unread post by **Toby_HDi** » 19 Feb 2010, 22:16

citroenxm wrote:Yea Toby, I know the HDi's are brill, As long as they are the 110bhp lumps... the 90 bhp units aren't as good on fuel

Paul

True, that man.

What are the V6's like in the XM's? 12v and 24v?

Citroenmad · Unread post by **Citroenmad** » 19 Feb 2010, 22:17

I can remember asking a nice CCC member a few years ago what CT stood for on his Xm. He replied "its like the wife, constant talk" Makes it easy to remember

Lovely Xm it is too, just changed hands once again in the CCC.

I know our Activa would do 25-30 with the TCT engine, i would have expected more or less the same in an Xm. Though 40 would seem to be pushing it a bit? I could easily get 40MPG plus from the 2.0 16v manual Xm, but with a TCT im not sure if id get that, certainly not in an auto. Though im not the most economical driver ever.

No, it wont be pricey. Though seems like your wanting one quickish, so ill have to see whats happening with it. I too am not usually a fan of white cars, but the xm really does suit it and its one of my favourite colours for an Xm, especially with the black bumpers which breaks it up a bit.

I find the 2.1 manual excellent on fuel, certainl no worse than a HDI C5. If your wanting economy then a manual car is nearly always better.

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 19 Feb 2010, 22:21

Toby_HDi wrote:
citroenxm wrote:Yea Toby, I know the HDi's are brill, As long as they are the 110bhp lumps... the 90 bhp units aren't as good on fuel

Paul
True, that man.

What are the V6's like in the XM's? 12v and 24v?

Depends which unit you have. The PRV V6 12v is ok.. sounds like a V8 due to the 90 deg cylinder banks.. Chain Drive cam shafts, the one I had very tough! MOST if not all are auto.

Then theres the PRV V6 24v 90 deg engine in manual ONLY.. but getting one... RARE, and go for good prices... but they have twin Plenium throttles, and also make an amazing noise, even more so without the air cleaner pipe on...

They can suffer from starter problems, just clicking, its either the solinoid suffering due to its location, or the main harness on the engine which runs down the front bank to the starter mealting a little due to heat..

Then Later after 1997, the Xantia unit... Ah la Xantia, any problem in the xantia will be simillar in the XM..

Paul

Xaccers · Unread post by **Xaccers** » 19 Feb 2010, 22:42

doing 60mph all the way to brighton form MK around the top of the M25 got me only 27mpg from Juliet.
Normally if I drive her properly (hard and fast and fun) I get 20mpg.
Cassy used to get me 45mpg driving from Leighton Buzzard to Staines, so coupled with running on veg was the cheapest to run.
Dex (2.1TD) only gave me 32mpg, though as Jim says, he got 50ish when he had Dex.

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 19 Feb 2010, 22:44

Citroenmad wrote: I find the 2.1 manual excellent on fuel, certainl no worse than a HDI C5. If your wanting economy then a manual car is nearly always better.

Ooooooo that gets me excited then for when I get my 2.1 SED Manual!

PAul

Unread post by **Peter.N.** » 19 Feb 2010, 23:08

citroenxm wrote:up to 40 ! on a run! From the Turbo 2 litre engine... hows that? Down hill on over run?

If my 2.o Turbo was that good Id consider - and I mean consider keeping it, but personally, I dont think they are that good! The only engine that gives around 40 to 40 plug would be he 2.1 DERV..

ANYWAY Lets NOT get into an economy and engine debate, it always happens in here..

Paul

I'm not saying a word

Citroenmad · Unread post by **Citroenmad** » 19 Feb 2010, 23:20

citroenxm wrote:
Citroenmad wrote: I find the 2.1 manual excellent on fuel, certainly no worse than a HDI C5. If your wanting economy then a manual car is nearly always better.

Ooooooo that gets me excited then for when I get my 2.1 SED Manual!

PAul

Well i get around 43/44mpg from my C5, i rarely take it easy mind. Closer to 50 on a good motorway run. The 2.1TD is just as good, its easy to improve its MPG with more careful driving. The 2.1TD manaul is also just as nippy when you need to be away. Though it has less of a useful rev range than the HDis, they rev and pull througout the rev range, but the 2.1TD needs to be kept in its rev band. I prefer the sound of a TD to a HDi. You cant lose with a 2.1TD manual Xm, especially if its of the Bosch variety.

Unread post by **Peter.N.** » 19 Feb 2010, 23:28

Alright then, two words - I concur.

citroenesque · Unread post by **citroenesque** » 20 Feb 2010, 00:12

Maybe I should offer a better average, having looked at the figures (it's always a mixture of urban/'extra-urban') it's coming out at 32mpg. I'm happy with that.

And it goes some too...

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 20 Feb 2010, 09:14

Citroenmad wrote: I prefer the sound of a TD to a HDi. You cant lose with a 2.1TD manual Xm, especially if its of the Bosch variety.

Huh, unfortunally, mine being a 1990 H reg, is a Lucas mechanical - so that will have to be junked for a Bosch equpit unit.. NOT that I intend uning ueggie, with 45mpg, thats better then the Xantia TD, and I do not use veggie in that, and has led to a good milage from the fuel system, at 223k theres still no leaks for starting problems..

Paul

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 20 Feb 2010, 09:23

Paul,

Technically the Lucas is the better pump. If it works well I'd never go to the bother of swapping it for a Bosch..

And even if a Lucas leaks a tad, it's a dead easy job to reseal it. No need to remove from engine to do so..

If you never intend using veg or other foreign fuel, the Lucas is the pump to have

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