Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
Those ball joints can come out hard sometimes! They don't cut the thread in the bottom of the hub very well, which can lead to them being tight. I've had heat and a 6ft tube on them before.
The oil should be obvious if it's engine (black) or gearbox (stinky!). If the oil cooler seal or turbo is leaking it tends to just run down the front of the block. They can leak from the rocker cover, or the cam carrier, or the vac pump, which is above the gearbox and could run down. I would expect the top of the box to be oily in this case.
The oil should be obvious if it's engine (black) or gearbox (stinky!). If the oil cooler seal or turbo is leaking it tends to just run down the front of the block. They can leak from the rocker cover, or the cam carrier, or the vac pump, which is above the gearbox and could run down. I would expect the top of the box to be oily in this case.
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
I'll definitely count myself lucky on that basis! My nice long breaker bar still needed a reasonable pull, but it did the job without too much drama.RichardW wrote: 08 Mar 2025, 20:49 Those ball joints can come out hard sometimes! They don't cut the thread in the bottom of the hub very well, which can lead to them being tight. I've had heat and a 6ft tube on them before.
Good info, thanks. Yes seems more black engine oily than smelly gearbox oily I think.The oil should be obvious if it's engine (black) or gearbox (stinky!). If the oil cooler seal or turbo is leaking it tends to just run down the front of the block. They can leak from the rocker cover, or the cam carrier, or the vac pump, which is above the gearbox and could run down. I would expect the top of the box to be oily in this case.
Will have a good look from above tomorrow when digging towards the tip of the box for it's oil refill task. Can't see a load of oil on top from a cursory look. Might get my borescope on the go and see how near oil filter housing I can view.
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
I know how that feels,MattBLancs wrote: 08 Mar 2025, 15:14
Brake caliper bolts: top one is 13 mm, bottom one is 12 mm head. Supposed to have loctite but nope it's copper grease instead.
Why does finding out how the car has been worked on in the past generally not fill me with confidence!?
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
You can see the remains of the factory "loctite" (the blue band on the top one) as wellHuskyxantia wrote: 08 Mar 2025, 22:01I know how that feels,MattBLancs wrote: 08 Mar 2025, 15:14
Brake caliper bolts: top one is 13 mm, bottom one is 12 mm head. Supposed to have loctite but nope it's copper grease instead.
Why does finding out how the car has been worked on in the past generally not fill me with confidence!?
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
Exactly, it's staring you in the face as what's needed and still got it wrong!Stickyfinger wrote: 09 Mar 2025, 07:03 You can see the remains of the factory "loctite" (the blue band on the top one) as well![]()
I'd various brake caliper bolts in my "recycling" bucket but they are all standard M8 thread pitch (1.25) these are a much finer thread (1.0 mm pitch I think) I suppose, given the apparent quality of workmanship, it's fortunate that the substitute bolt is at least the correct pitch! That would have been a bigger headache!
Finishing off the job this afternoon (sump resealing will be another day's job) this morning was an enjoyable stroll with my two boys to here:
https://www.britishcommercialvehiclemuseum.com/
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
Just trying to see if can spot source of the grey 308 oil leak.
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
Grey 308 SW passenger side gearbox oil seal:
viewtopic.php?p=802723&hilit=Gearbox+oil#p802723
I'd forgotten that!
Changed earlier on in our ownership of this car!MattBLancs wrote: 08 Mar 2025, 16:22 I do not have this one in stock (or I don't think so!)
Otherwise I'm same view as you both, get it changed. Next time I'm in the area will look to change it.
viewtopic.php?p=802723&hilit=Gearbox+oil#p802723
I'd forgotten that!
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
I thought I had a perfect no mess transfer system for gearbox oil from me big unwealdy 20 litre container: a syphon.
Unfortunately I am not sure I'll live long enough for a couple of litres to amble its way out this method!
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
Ah, business as usual has prevailed
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
Is it not best just to use the loo ?
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
Should have gone earlier if 2.1 litres excreted!
Fortunately that act requires neither syphon, nor funnel
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
^^^ 
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
Blue 308, last week's trip to Reading and back, plus to the office and back on Monday:
583 miles, 43.49l, 141.7ppl £61.63
9.58 gallons
60.8 mpg
Very happy with that
583 miles, 43.49l, 141.7ppl £61.63
9.58 gallons
60.8 mpg
Very happy with that
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Re: Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs
That's awesome Matt 
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