RNEG Firmware or Software

[Rhothgar]

Ok, so 2.77 would suggest this should be fine, but yes, always do a backup so that the data and configuration can be restored after the updated firmware is applied if needed.

If replacing the MicroSD card, make sure you get a 16Gb version to allow for the increased map sizes of later map updates, make sure it's a Class 10 card.

I take that it is fine to use the radio function as that probably doesn't write to the card?

Sorry I forgot to post an update on my previous post.

Yes. Class 10 for sure. I think we actually have some Class 10 16Gb Sandisk in our warehouse.

Website is showing we have:-

https://www.grumpygreyhound.co.uk/sandi ... -microsdhc

Think we are actually losing on those at that price. It's hard to complete with the likes of Amazon.

[GiveMeABreak]

The card is used regardless, as data is read from the card every time the vehicle is started - I just meant limit use as much as you can as anything like streaming music playlists and navigation planning requires data writes, so get a backup as soon as possible - it doesn't take long for the backup. You'll need a USB for this, FAT32 Formatted first.

[Rhothgar]

Thanks again, Marc.

Will see to it this week.

[Rhothgar]

Ok, so a warning here:

Ought to ask as I'm getting nearer to getting the radio out over the coming days, is there a specific requirement to disconnect the battery before removing the radio ie any special procedure to be followed please?

Do I need to follow a BSI Reset Procedure or anything like that? If so, are there instructions anywhere for the 3008?

Thanks in advance.

[GiveMeABreak]

Once you e made the backup as per the guide, you must ensure that you disconnect the quad lock connector FIRST and reconnect it LAST.

This provides the power and can cause issues if the other connections, especially the video cable are removed without first removing the power supplied by the quadlock.

[Rhothgar]

Once you e made the backup as per the guide, you must ensure that you disconnect the quad lock connector FIRST and reconnect it LAST.

This provides the power and can cause issues if the other connections, especially the video cable are removed without first removing the power supplied by the quadlock.

Cheers Marc. I assume that the cables will come out as I pull the radio out...

Please let me know if they don't and I actually need to dismantle the centre console or something!

[GiveMeABreak]

I can't advise as each vehicle is different in terms of what equipment is stashed behind the fascia - but carefully pull it forward in the knowledge that it may be a tight fit and that you may have to loose a few fingers in the process.

[Rhothgar]

I can't advise as each vehicle is different in terms of what equipment is stashed behind the fascia - but carefully pull it forward in the knowledge that it may be a tight fit and that you may have to loose a few fingers in the process.

I shall. Thanks again.

[Rhothgar]

1) Yes this is an RT6
2) I do NOT recommend you updating the firmware unless you have a reason or an issue requiring it. Reason being, the latest update (V2.86) can render the unit totally reset to factory defaults, that you cannot fix with a diagnostic tool. It would require reconfiguring at the dealer and that will involve diagnostic time of a minimum of £120 minimum.

My information suggests you can upgrade to version 2.80 though, but I would first follow the Part 'A' of the Mirascripts section of this guide: How to Replace the Internal MicroSD Card - RT6 for a backup of user settings in case you need them.

Again, entirely your choice, but if all is well I would leave it alone. Let me know if you require the 2.80 Firmware.

Just re-reading this and am a little confused.

The disc I have from Peugeot, ie the navigation cd. For some reason, I thought that was the firmware. It's obviously the MAPS! EDIT: Actually it's not! Reading your description it's the Firmware 2.86 I ordered. Maybe it would help if I go and grab the disc and STOP GUESSING!

If you could let me have a link to download the 2.80 firmware that would be very much appreciated. I read the mirascripts how to early hours of this morning so am just preparing the USB stick.

I'll continue revisiting the thread and carefully reading over things as I know that some of the questions I later asked are actually answered in the mirascripts section.

[GiveMeABreak]

PM Sent.

[Rhothgar]

PM Sent.

Cool. Cheers Marc.

Well I think I did the backup. You don't really see anything it happens so quick but the files of, of course, tiny.

Perhaps I should plug USB in and check to see what is different and then run the Sys Vol Inf script again.

I'd have thought that it would take 30 minutes or so if it is copying maps and the like. I took photo of the screens and will upload them later because it didn't actually work as the instructions suggested. I may well have wiped the MicroSD although the NAV is working so perhaps I didn't.

At first I didn't know where the USB port but realised it was in the armrest after taking the radio out! Not my car. Too modern and flash for me...

I suppose I should change the MicroSD BEFORE running the dealer CD? It's not clear to me which way around that should be done.

Perhaps I should do 2.80 first and then try 2.86 though judging from what it says on the CD packaging anything about 2.3x (or whatever it was I wrote the other day should be fine) so should I even bother with 2.80?

Anyway, I'm off to do the discs and pads all round now so I log on later and check for a response to the above.

Thanks again.

[GiveMeABreak]

I strongly suggest you do not open or attempt to edit any files - they are likely formatted in a specific unicode text format and any attempt to edit them with a windows programme may cause incompatibility.

The files are small, but they will be there if you followed the instructions - just archive them off onto your PC in a folder and do not attempt to open the file.

This utility WILL NOT copy map data, only the configuration info for the system and the vehicle options. You will have to reinstall your maps afterwards as the partitions will be recreated, destroying everything on there if you are replacing the MicroSD card.

Replacing the MicroSD Card - that will require erasing of everything which this does and reinstalls the vehicle's configuration and new Operating system from the firmware from scratch. You will have to reinstall any data, re-pair any phones and synch contacts from your connected phones again.

So expect to have to reinstall maps and your phone again if reinstalling your operating system or replacing the MicroSD card.

Don't install 2.80 and then 2.80 straight away and bear in mind what I said can happen regarding 2.86 - it is always risky.

If you are installing 2.80 first, make sure everything is working and that your system functions are working, parking assistance etc. If all is well, take a second back up of the user config using Mirascripts (and keep it in a separate folder named 'RT6 280 Mira' for example) to make it easy to distinguish, then if you want to risk 2.86, go ahead and fingers crossed. Only when you're done with the firmware should you re-pair phones and reinstall your maps.

[Rhothgar]

So how do I actually get the maps? Is there some way to copy them over or are they included in the CD I got from Peugeot?

Had a right nightmare today with the rear calipers. Only managed to get them done.

[GiveMeABreak]

No, for this unit maps are chargeable and not part of any firmware software update.

Here:

https://citroen.navigation.com/home/en_ ... enEMEA/GBP

[Rhothgar]

But you seemed to allude to the maps being on the microSD card hence why some buy a 16Gb?

If the read of the microSD only takes seconds there is no way it has copied the maps?

So are the maps safe or so they for part of the firmware update process somehow? This is what remains unclear to me despite searching for posts on the forum.