2.0 HDi clutch

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Re: 2.0 HDi clutch

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In the absence of a hatch/plug/grommet at the bottom of the flywheel housing, might it be possible just to part 'box from engine by a couple of cm, just enough to hook/magnet out any debris? Just an idea.
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Re: 2.0 HDi clutch

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I am sure our 306 has an alloy removable part under the sump/gearbox bellhousing area, where the lower part circumference of the flywheel starter ring gear can be seen, with a gap between it and the bell housing, but then again its been ages since I have been under for servicing etc..
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I looked in the pug 306 and picasso hdi haynes manual, there is a removable tin cover for the bottom of the flywheel area, with enough gap hopefully to drag any bits from out of in there......if the starter motor is also taken off, there is more ........but only some more.....
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Re: 2.0 HDi clutch

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Escape hatch! Well found.
Try a small strong magnet, firmly secured to the end of a piece of stiff wire.
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Magnetic pick up tools are quite cheap ( eBay
Places like Home Bargains, B&M, Toolstation, Machine Mart etc. or if unavoidable Halfords have them.
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Re: 2.0 HDi clutch

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white exec wrote: 25 Nov 2018, 08:45 In the absence of a hatch/plug/grommet at the bottom of the flywheel housing, might it be possible just to part 'box from engine by a couple of cm, just enough to hook/magnet out any debris? Just an idea.



Do you think i could get the clutch in and out of there also? would be handy!

Still need to replace clutch and rest of junk as thats what took the smile of the sensor.
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Re: 2.0 HDi clutch

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myglaren wrote: 01 Dec 2018, 12:19 Magnetic pick up tools are quite cheap ( eBay
Places like Home Bargains, B&M, Toolstation, Machine Mart etc. or if unavoidable Halfords have them.
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Got a couple of them ones a tele screwdriver looking one and other is bigger USA made thing that can pick up some heavy items
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Re: 2.0 HDi clutch

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oscar wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 00:39 Do you think i could get the clutch in and out of there also? would be handy!
I don't know that engine bay, but would have thought very unlikely.
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white exec wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 08:34
oscar wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 00:39 Do you think i could get the clutch in and out of there also? would be handy!
I don't know that engine bay, but would have thought very unlikely.



That's the trouble still have to sort the clutch out!
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Re: 2.0 HDi clutch

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Yes, almost all engines have a tin plate that covers the bottom couple of inches of the flywheel, where it would otherwise be a hazard to anyone working under there. You can usually remove and refit it without any other dismantling.
It might be useful, if the debris is VERY small, but in my experience it only ever helps diagnose ring-gear problems. The clearance is too tight to fish a magnet, or anything else, in between the teeth and bell housing.
However, you DO have to take it off before removing the gearbox, so have a play before attacking the bigger bolts
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Re: 2.0 HDi clutch

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A thin 'blade' electromagnet could be made by wrapping a quantity (say ?5m/100 turns) of light duty insulated wire around one end of a strip of steel, eg an old (non-brittle) hacksaw blade. This might poke between flywheel teeth and clutch housing. Power up with 12v dc.
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At least removing the plate and the stater motor is part of the gearbox off job, so not really a waste of time, to fish for debris that killed the crank sensor. Have a good look see/feel about etc. then if reasonably happy fit the new crank sensor and just start the engine, If it runs and revs ok even for a few seconds to prove it runs ok, then time well spent.

Next, remove the gearbox etc. and have fun doing it. Remember that de cv jointed wheel bearings should not ( MUST NOT ) have vehicle weight on them as its the cv joint acting as a "bolt" that holds the inner races in place.