Violent bump on cold strting (Xantia Hdi)

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rmunns
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Unread post by rmunns »

Thanks.

And thanks, Xantia V6 - no offence intended of course - it's just easier for me to check and eliminate the glowplugs than to struggle with engine mounts.

I have to say, I do, however, agree that an engine mount is the culprit but just maybe the battery which really struggles when T = minus 6deg. C or so. If it hasn't caught by the fourth churn I let it rest with ignition off. Then try again, it catches first go then.

BTW I have seen mention that after a few seconds (10?) the glowplug power is automatically turned off. So no avantage in 'letting them really get warm' by leaving ignition on longer than that?
Xantidote
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Unread post by Xantidote »

Glowplugs In-situ testing:

That's an interesting test using a 55w bulb, suggested by Dieselnutjob :)

Yes, you can measure in-situ by checking the resistance of each glowplug, after disconnecting the feed wire. I do this to check that at least each glowplug is taking the correct current. A good glowplug , from all the measurements I've done, should have a resistance of 1/2 to 1 ohm.

With such a low resistance, there should be no problem lighting up a 55w (approx 4-5 amps) headlamp bulb placed in series with the glowplug, as a glowplug will draw approx 18 amps initially (on my XUD), falling to 10-12 amps as it heats up.
Martin

1995 Xantia TDLX (deceased :( )
HDI Dave
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Re: Violent bump on cold strting (Xantia Hdi)

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rmunns wrote:I am getting a violent bump on cold starting. So that's every morning. Afterthe first start of the day future starts are OK.
Sounds like a classic glow plug issue to me.

Although it could I suppose be both, struggling with a duff glow plug on first startup making the mount bump more pronounced :?
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rmunns
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Unread post by rmunns »

Update:

took car to Citroen dealer (a 'mini dealer' in France - nearly all towns have one) and they have diagnosed it's a battery problem.

So one is on order. Will keep you informed.
rmunns
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Unread post by rmunns »

It was the battery!

I can't fathom out why and just what was happening.

Certainly the battery was struggling on cold mornings but I think I would have been able to manage through to the spring. That is,except for the frightening 'bump'.

New, proper-sized battery fitted last night (previous owner had had a smaller battery fitted {although it was a Varta, good quality}).

This morning..............................NO bump on starting.
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"NO bump on starting"

Not quite bump starting in the conventional sense :lol:

Excellent news - pity you had to buy new battery with spring on the way (we hope!)
Martin

1995 Xantia TDLX (deceased :( )