Ebay listing Xantia 3.0 ,with faults

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 23 Oct 2008, 22:43

There'll always be someone out there in ebayland waiting to bid and spoil
best made plans even if others on this forum volunteered to defer bidding.
Sod's law says the item you forgot to bid on goes through, then get's relisted
and has 3 bidders...

Andrew

KP · Unread post by KP » 24 Oct 2008, 09:45

Jim Should this maybe not go in french chat as its not really a V6 Activa

Just to let people know i've spotted another one on ebay thats in Bradford that im keeping my eye on just to see what happens as i could have it if it stays cheap enough but i doubt it will being in the nick its in

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 24 Oct 2008, 14:47

That's not the other blue one is it?

And did you see the silver one finishing today!!?

Andrew

fatherjack2002 · Unread post by **fatherjack2002** » 26 Oct 2008, 19:44

Oh well, i've only gone and bought it !!!! i went with the intention of viewing , and poss bidding later, but after a decent test drive, about 5miles, not just round the block !, (which is what some sellers think is adequite ), it has convinced me that even if the autobox only lasts a short time at least i've experienced and owned a V6.
The autobox has a slight whine, which after the test run was barely noticable, so i think that its worth taking to an auto engineer for a 2nd opinion, as the owner had only had it diagnosed via a phone call. The blower problem is in the fan that sits in the passenger footwell under the glove box,i should be able to obtain a "scrappy" one of these . The heaterpipe that has been by-passed is a hard plastic hose junction which is located on the engine side of the bulkhead , at more or less the top centre of the bulkhead, ( any info on how hard/easy this is to replace, and if any forum members have a spare junction to sell would be appreciated ) i've taken a couple of pics, so i'll try to load them later.
So how much did you pay Paul ?? i hear being asked, £275 was the cost, this includes tax to March (£75), so in effect its cost me £200, which i dont think is too bad.
The car has shed loads of history,and paperwork from day one, which i'll go thru as soon as i get some time.
I was "Googling" Xantia V6 earlier this month, and noted that only 400, had been made, can anyone verify this this ,as it seems quite a low number ?, also mine is the pre facelift model, all the other V6's that appear on Ebay seem to be facelifts models, , so is this a rarer beast?
I collect it next week ,or as soon as i get some free time, more news to follow.
Paul

and grining like the Cheshire cat

P.S. if any members have a fan , or hose junction they want to swap for some of the folding stuff i'd more than happy

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 26 Oct 2008, 20:11

Well done Paul, excellent

That's the spirit! Made me smile, it has

Looking forward to lots of news on this car. Maybe time for you to start a blog

The heater fan. What's the problem exactly? If it's just the module, I can fix that for you.

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 26 Oct 2008, 20:14

Phew! I'M just really glad you stopped the auction from going through
- I really was wavering over bidding!!

Like you I fancy owning a
V6 even if it's just for a week or two before it goes bang!

Andrew

fatherjack2002 · Unread post by **fatherjack2002** » 26 Oct 2008, 22:37

Thanks Jim, hopefully these pics will up load, if not i may need some assistance, anyway the 1st pic shows the blower motor, the part that is not working sits in the triangular section of the casing, the (previous ) owner has the part somewhere and will have it when i collect the car.

The second pic, shows the plastic hose junction to the heater, the left section has been snapped off when removing the hose, i assume that the 2 junctions are flow/return , just off camera at the bottom of pic are the hoses joined with section of copper pipe, sorry if the 2nd pic is too close-up, but any further away and you can't see it at all !

cheers Paul......

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 26 Oct 2008, 22:52

Relatively speaking, you're in luck with the bulkhead fitting with the two
pipes.

This is the heater matrix inlet/outlet and is the same on all Xantiae.
If you get the first rigid plastic mounting piece with the integral spring
detached off a scrappy car and keep/cut the first 3-4" of hosing below it,
there's a good chance you can joint it all together and reconstitute your
bespoke V6 pipes with a section of plastic pipe.

Just visible in the middle (to the right of the bleed screw tyre valve cap)
the broken looking spring can usually be a bit of a sod to undo. This
damage looks isolated to the rigid plastic end of the hose that plugs
into the bulkhead. Beware though it's not unknown for the receiving
collar/end to break and this is the attachment onto the heater matrix
and a dash out job to replace. Have a VERY close looksee at what is
left there!

It won't be made any easier by the fat aircon pipe running tight over the
top of the fitting just to make life more 'challenging'...

He may very well have got shot of the car as there isn't ANY heat into the
cabin so it'll be Brass Monkeys for the coming Winter months.

The downside with the blower fan is you need the harder to get aircon
version - not any old version will do!

Andrew

KP · Unread post by KP » 27 Oct 2008, 11:42

Im sure Jim will be able to replace the Thrystor unit to get it going again, has has a spare or two and is a super chap

Well worth getting one and saves lots of messing around.

Done good to get the car that cheap as well!

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 27 Oct 2008, 20:51

I have a similarly blurry pic of the same pipe connector on a Xantia I
scrapped recently - I didn't keep any of these pipes as the rubber was
being eaten away by oil allowed to leak into the cooling circuit;

The spring is seen in the middle of the two rounded feed pipes. Annoyed
with myself now as a small length offcut on this would've helped you
- check out the local scrappy

Andrew

deian · Unread post by **deian** » 28 Oct 2008, 22:03

as for the number, it was low number like 400 or so, although i don't have the exact figure. I'm sure it was more like 475.

For parts, remember engine wise, it's like a pug 406 v6.

f00lzz · Unread post by **f00lzz** » 30 Oct 2008, 10:57

You are correct in the number of V6 Xantias imported by Citroen GB, but a number of cars were imported independantly... As you can see I had an 'early' V6 which was a blend of early 'Mk 1s' and the later updated models.. something to do with needing to change the front to accomodate the V6. Incidentally I have it on good authority that the V6 I currently have was the last V6 imported by Citroen GB. Keep an eye on the expansion bottle which tend to leak around the joint and also the radiator which will almost certainly have been replaced at least once because they leak from the matrix about 2/3rds down.
And why do people think that because the autobox may be knacked that the expense of getting it repaired 'isn't worth it'? I would certainly replace mine if it needed it!!

Ian

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 30 Oct 2008, 11:33

We're just into the realms of the 'uneconomic to repair' argument but as you
say, to you it'd be worth keeping the car going at a cost that may put many
others off - the argument is as old as the hills or at least cars!

Apparently, 434 S1 and S2 V6 Exclusives officially made it into the UK
imported through Citroen. LOOK AFTER IT!!

Andrew

fatherjack2002 · Unread post by **fatherjack2002** » 07 Nov 2008, 20:48

Well, i was looking foward to letting everyone know that i collected the car last weekend, and was going to start a blog, but unfortunatly my short lived ( and loved) V6 expired this morning on my way to work,

. as i was aware upon viewing ,and purchasing, that there was a ( possible ) autobox fault, but since collecting it last Saturday i had covered about 350 miles without incident, that was until this morning.
It went out kind of strangely, at first it wouldn't kick down, then it kept jumping around the gearbox ,going up and down gears for no apparent reason,going down the box was very harsh and jumpy, finaly i stopped at a junction, and there was no drive at all, putting the car into park then into gear, it pulled away but refused to leave 1st gear, it then started loosing power, that kind of resembled a slipping clutch, then no gears at all !!!!!!.
To quote one of my previous posts .........................

"even if the autobox only lasts a short time at least i've experienced and owned a V6."

but for the short time to have been 6 days i feel slightly cheated, not by the seller as i knew the potential fault/problem, but by the fact that i didn't get any longer driving it.
I've spent the rest of the day licking my wounds and feeling sorry for myself

, in the mean time i registered with a couple of part locators to find the availability of a replacement ZF box.
Now here's the dilemma i'm in, do i ..........................

NO 1.....buy a replacement box from a breakers, i've been quoted £250 inc VAT and carriage, for a box from a MK1 with 81K (rear end ins write off), and pay approx £350 to have it fitted, ( best quote ) this takes the cost of the car up to £800..................

NO 2..... send the car down to Essex and have a fully recon box with 3 year guarantee fitted .....cost £895, this takes the cost of the car up to £1100..........

NO 3 ......offer the car on the "for sale " section of the forum for the price i paid, incidently the car is in better condition than i had envisaged, there are no parking "dings" the body is totally straight, and the interior is near mint ( slight wear to drivers seat) apart from the heater hoses and blower, which was highlighted on the Ebay listing................

NO 4..... tow it to the breakers and get about £150..................

NO 5 ...... advertise here on the "wants" section for a box , and ask the cheeky question if any forum member would be prepared to fit the box for me .

not a freebie obviously but a little cheaper than my quoted fitting cost

I'll let these options go out to bounce around the forum, and hopefully help me make my mind up

, to be totally honest i can't realy justify spending near on £600 on a £200 car i bought a week ago ...HELP !!!

This must have been the briefest affair i've had, but left the most profound feelings..........
Paul

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 07 Nov 2008, 21:23

So sad for you over this Paul

Of your options, given the great overall condition, No. 4 is right out. Don't you dare!!! You'll have the whole forum descend upon you with pitchforks

If it were me, I'd go down the option 1 route and have a go at swapping the box myself. I can't imagine it's much more difficult than swapping a manual 'box.

Mind you, option 2 is worth considering given the condition of the car. £1100 is still a good price for a heck of a lot of car with a guaranteed 'box. A V6 Xantia has got to be worth that much, especially with cambelts done.

You could consider a manual conversion from a scrapped V6 406...

You never know what option 5 might bring...