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myglaren wrote: 13 Oct 2022, 19:17 (carbon dioxde battery vid...)

Apologies for the annoying commercial.
At least this American is quiet and tolerable.
Well-presented I thought and informative in Dave-esque style.

From earlier in the thread
Ørsted and the CO2 Battery

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Antiques Road Trip is a great source of interesting information. They were tootling around Scotland in a White Mini with Houndstooth Black and White upholstery as was my bog standard Metro City in the 80's.

..and delved a bit into the history of windpower. Oh that we had had the knowledge when we visited Kincardineshire on our travel around the 92 historic Counties in the United Kingdom. viewtopic.php?p=719363#p719363
The first wind turbine used for the production of electricity was built in Scotland in July 1887 by Prof James Blyth of Anderson's College, Glasgow (the precursor of Strathclyde University). Blyth's 10 m high, cloth-sailed wind turbine was installed in the garden of his holiday cottage at Marykirk in Kincardineshire and was used to charge accumulators developed by the Frenchman Camille Alphonse Faure, to power the lighting in the cottage, thus making it the first house in the world to have its electricity supplied by wind power.
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That's interesting, high tech for the day. Has anyone visited 'Cragside' in the lake district, the first house to be lit by hydro electric?

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Peter.N. wrote: 18 Oct 2022, 22:14 That's interesting, high tech for the day. Has anyone visited 'Cragside' in the lake district, the first house to be lit by hydro electric?

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Ah right. I haven't been there although I saw a brilliant video on it by the chap that plays 'Father Brown' live controls and all. can you see the electrics if you visit?

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I would have to look that up, certainly Armstrongs Machinery you can. They did install an Archimedes screw between one of the lakes exiting into the debdon burn which runs down by the side of the house to replicate Hydro Electric power to the house, but I think that the head of water in the lake didnt provide for very effective operation of the screw.

https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/featur ... o-cragside

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^ I worked with a photographer who lived there for a while to catalogue the contents for insurance.
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myglaren wrote: 19 Oct 2022, 21:22 Robert Murray Smith vid...
Enjoyed that, loads of similar interesting stuff to find on his youtube channel

https://www.youtube.com/c/RobertMurraySmith/videos

Here's a couple 1717 and follow on 1718






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It looks like our energy bill reduction which I posted a week or two ago is about right. Took the readings after the first complete month following our LED and kettle revisions and our electricity usage was down 43% on the same month last year and gas only increased by 4%. I am very happy with that!! :-D
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Although I record the readings regularly-ish I haven't analysed them. Had an email from Scottish Power to sent them in and had the bill back that doesn't look too horrendous.
Daytime use of electricity is minimal though, even in less than ideal weather conditions.

Had the heating running most of the day yesterday, hit the boost button which should run it for an hour then shut off until the next timed period. Didn't, continued until I shut it off manually about midnight.
Still very little gas gobbled.
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This time last year Shell reduced my monthly DD from £47 to £30 because I was building up too much credit,
I got an email recently telling me that because of the energy crisis they were increasing it to £91 then yesterday another saying it's up to £118 from November. :shock:
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Gibbo2286 wrote: 20 Oct 2022, 12:23 This time last year Shell reduced my monthly DD from £47 to £30 because I was building up too much credit,
I got an email recently telling me that because of the energy crisis they were increasing it to £91 then yesterday another saying it's up to £118 from November. :shock:

That's still not bad Eric... I'm on a dual fuel tariff and it went from £70 to £230... Yesterday I got an email to say I was £800 in credit but no reduction in the DD..

I'm happy to leave it there and build more credit to cushion any further increases... At present I can afford it but no way is my heating going on until the brass monkeys start shivering...

Not a therm nor KWh of energy is going to be squandered in this house :wink:
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Our electricity didn't go up at all on Oct 1st, still 31.9p I believe.

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An article in The Grauniad, and reprinted elsewhere, on the BBCs plans for blackouts this winter. It does contain a bit of realism in it though which can be regarded as mildly reassuring :? :

"Ministers have been at pains to reassure businesses and householders that blackouts are unlikely. However, National Grid, which oversees electricity supplies in Great Britain, has issued a rare warning that power supplies could be at risk. The organisation said that in a worst-case scenario it could order planned blackouts for up to three hours a day if Russia cuts off all gas supplies to Europe.

On Monday, National Grid’s chief executive, John Pettigrew, went further and said that if everything that could possibly go wrong did go wrong, there could be rolling blackouts between 4pm and 7pm on “really, really cold” days in January and February, when wind speeds are too low to power turbines."
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/ ... -blackouts

On a slight tangent - for those that know about such things - I wonder if wind turbine arrays have the capability to perform their own black start ? They'd need power to release the brakes and control the blades and do other things - I wonder if their transformer sites have the necessary reserve power facilities ?
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I have seen many adverts cropping up on youtube for these things, some invented by an Edinburgh schoolboy, some by a jet engineer etc etc. ridiculous stories, and ridiculous claims.

Needed a bit of balance to cut through the rubbish. Probably haven't selected the best, it's an American and he calls himself Krazy Ken after all, but he nicely debunks the products and their claims.

He is no Big Clive of course.



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