Any CX experts faimiliar with the MK2's out there?

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CGATCX25GTITURBO
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Unread post by CGATCX25GTITURBO »

Got to disagree, I've had my ole bus for 23 years now and had many different wheels and tyres on it. The 40 profile tyres are brilliant, the car is much more directional. Okay it isn't a soft as it used to be but thats what I wanted and in messing with sphere/wheel tyre combinations I got the car to where I'm comfortable. It still handles the speed bumps well and handles brilliantly for what it is.

bearing in mind the turbo's had 55 profile rubber as standard anyways ;)
so not that far from your s**t 40 or 50 profile from the factory and they were optimised for that :)
Neil aka CGAT
1986 CX25 GTI TURBO 1 SERIES 2 'CGAT'
1998 XANTIA 19TD ESTATE
1987 BX19 GTI 8V
2012 Citroen DS3
1997 600 Bandit
2000 ZX12R from new
1989 CX GTI Turbo 62k miles in a barn since 2001, project started 2023.
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Spaces
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andmcit wrote:There's no argument from this corner that a Cx is one of the best places to be
sitting piloting hard around a fast tight, long and smooth-surfaced A-road bend
but I feel substantially happier running on the Alfa rims with the lower section
larger rims I have on mine than 70 section 185's.

You mustn't have decent spheres! ;)

Disagree on the only 'give' in the Cx's suspension being in the tyres though;
my GTi T2 is far suppler than practically everything else I currently drive
which includes various Activae, Xant V6 Exclusives, VSX and boggo spec
suspension Xants although mix in various other flavoured Cx and Gs and
it get's a harder decision. Mind, bafflingly, my Xm 24v v6 s1 runs it close.

Have you hydraflushed your VSX Xant and done the centre spheres?
They can get soft but there is definitely more body control than the
hydropneumatic suspended Cx, Bx or Gs.

Welcome to the forum BTW. :welc:

Andrew
Hi Andrew and thanks for the welcome! Must question your reasoning behind the points you make, though.

1/ Wider, flatter tyres will roll off the tread when driving truly quickly in a car which heels as a CX does - especially at the rear where there is less weight and different geometry. Additionally, the contact patch is altered from a longitudinal biased one to a transverse one - the 'feel' is that handling is better, in the real world it usually isn't. A Michelin high sidewall tyre will mould itself to your driving style, increasing the contact patch area under heavy braking, soaking up higher frequency irregularities in the road surface without disturbing the suspension (makes a huge difference in corners, especially when the surface is slippery) and generally stabilising the vehicle when pressing on.

2/ I said the only rubber in the suspension is in the tyre sidewalls, not the give. There's loads of give in the supple springing!!! It's just not corrupted with the use of 'intelligent' rubber kinematics at every joint. More like a racing car, in fact.

3/ Not sure what you mean by 'body control'. I suspect you are brainwashed by motoring journalism, which only seems to understand the way a motor car behaves on a race track. In reference to driving at highly iliegal (UK) speeds on typical UK surfaces and foundations, the Xantia's body (and therefore engine and gearbox etc too) bucks and jitters with the road, causing even more loading on the suspension - all the more so since it is a heavy body. Additionally, the body movement becomes even more of a problem for the suspension when there is a payload. By contrast, the CX's suspension maintains the body as level/unaffected as possible, increasingly so as speeds rise. The wheels drop in and out of troughs without moving the body, so better tyre contact (grip) is maintained because the suspension doesn't have to deal with the inertia of a vertically accelerating 3/4 ton of body/chassis/engine/running gear/payload.

However, I do agree that if you live in suburbia and negotiate countless roundabouts at moderate speeds, the Xantia is by far the better vehicle. :shock:
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Hi Guy's, i've been a bit absent on here, still not visited the car yet. Need to buy some bits & then i'll be visiting shortly.

Just wanted to double check that these are the correct spark plugs that i need, i've seen quite a few variants of this type :?:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BP6HS-NGK-SPARK-P ... 3a652b6450

Also, is this the correct air filter that i need? & is there anywhere where they can be bought cheaper? K&N don't appear to do one, are there any other manufacturers who do, i'd like one that i can clean rather than just throwaway, all my other cars i've fitted k&n's, they just need a hoover out every service which saves a fortune over the years :D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT

Oil filters, are they this type? Or should i purchase a Purflux one, in which case which model do i need? Will a BX diesel screw on purflux 1109 filter(there are a few variants again, no idea which one i'd need) be ok?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Oil-Filte ... 35a740d277

From memory, i believe the Turbo Boost guage doesn't work, any ideas of what's likely to be wrong? Are they vacuum based so its a bust pipe or are they electronic?

Also the outside temp guage doesn't work either, ideas?

Cheers for reading, probably got another million questions after i get answers to these :oops:
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