andmcit wrote:There's no argument from this corner that a Cx is one of the best places to be
sitting piloting hard around a fast tight, long and smooth-surfaced A-road bend
but I feel substantially happier running on the Alfa rims with the lower section
larger rims I have on mine than 70 section 185's.
You mustn't have decent spheres!
Disagree on the only 'give' in the Cx's suspension being in the tyres though;
my GTi T2 is far suppler than practically everything else I currently drive
which includes various Activae, Xant V6 Exclusives, VSX and boggo spec
suspension Xants although mix in various other flavoured Cx and Gs and
it get's a harder decision. Mind, bafflingly, my Xm 24v v6 s1 runs it close.
Have you hydraflushed your VSX Xant and done the centre spheres?
They can get soft but there is definitely more body control than the
hydropneumatic suspended Cx, Bx or Gs.
Welcome to the forum BTW.
Andrew
Hi Andrew and thanks for the welcome! Must question your reasoning behind the points you make, though.
1/ Wider, flatter tyres will roll off the tread when driving truly quickly in a car which heels as a CX does - especially at the rear where there is less weight and different geometry. Additionally, the contact patch is altered from a longitudinal biased one to a transverse one - the 'feel' is that handling is better, in the real world it usually isn't. A Michelin high sidewall tyre will mould itself to your driving style, increasing the contact patch area under heavy braking, soaking up higher frequency irregularities in the road surface without disturbing the suspension (makes a huge difference in corners, especially when the surface is slippery) and generally stabilising the vehicle when pressing on.
2/ I said the only
rubber in the suspension is in the tyre sidewalls, not the
give. There's loads of give in the supple springing!!! It's just not corrupted with the use of 'intelligent' rubber kinematics at every joint. More like a racing car, in fact.
3/ Not sure what you mean by 'body control'. I suspect you are brainwashed by motoring journalism, which only seems to understand the way a motor car behaves on a race track. In reference to driving at highly iliegal (UK) speeds on typical UK surfaces and foundations, the Xantia's body (and therefore engine and gearbox etc too) bucks and jitters with the road, causing even more loading on the suspension - all the more so since it is a heavy body. Additionally, the body movement becomes even more of a problem for the suspension when there is a payload. By contrast, the CX's suspension maintains the body as level/unaffected as possible, increasingly so as speeds rise. The wheels drop in and out of troughs without moving the body, so better tyre contact (grip) is maintained because the suspension doesn't have to deal with the inertia of a vertically accelerating 3/4 ton of body/chassis/engine/running gear/payload.
However, I do agree that if you live in suburbia and negotiate countless roundabouts at moderate speeds, the Xantia is by far the better vehicle.
