Rounded off locking wheelnut

This is the Forum for all your Citroen Technical Questions, Problems or Advice.

Moderator: RichardW

Markta
Posts: 34
Joined: 11 Apr 2020, 23:20
x 1

Rounded off locking wheelnut

Post by Markta »

Hi all, I have a rounded off sheared off head type nut, whose half moon edges have rounded off. The key is in perfect condition, I just think the nuts were wizzed on too tight.

Anyway, is there a tool / method to get these off without damaging the alloy?

Thanks
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 37459
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 5743

Re: Rounded off locking wheelnut

Post by GiveMeABreak »

Nothing worse than tight nuts. :-D

If the head has shorn off already, then I think it's a trip to the tyre fitters to get it drilled out.
Please Don't PM Me For Technical Help

Marc
Online
User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 49674
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 6214

Re: Rounded off locking wheelnut

Post by CitroJim »

Sometimes, and depending upon what's left, a reverse-flute socket may bring forth results. These sockets are designed especially for gripping onto rounded-off nut and bolt heads to enable them to be undone. Irwin make some very competent ones... Look up 'Irwin Reverse Flute' on Giggle search...

I've had success using them to remove the four pin key type locking wheel studs found on many 90s PSA vehicles following lost/broken keys...

Another method is to get hold of a hollow bolt and mig weld it to what's left of the old stud... Such bolts are available for this very purpose...

Tyre fitters doing wheel studs/nut too tightly is a very serious problem and can in some instances leads to damaged threads...
Jim

Runner, cyclist, time triallist, duathlete, Citroen AX fan and the CCC Citroenian 'From A to Z' Columnist...
Online
Gibbo2286
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 7226
Joined: 08 Jun 2011, 18:04
x 2521

Re: Rounded off locking wheelnut

Post by Gibbo2286 »

Most tyre fitter companies have the tools and will have them off in under five minutes.
Man is, by nature, a lazy beast, he does not need twice encouraging to do nothing.
User avatar
bobins
Donor 2023
Posts: 5744
Joined: 05 Jul 2012, 18:07
x 2895

Re: Rounded off locking wheelnut

Post by bobins »

<tongue in cheek : ON> That must be a profitable little sideline for the tyre fitters. Wind the nuts on too tight, then charge to remove them. <tongue in cheek : OFF>
Sadly no longer a C5 owner :(
jgra1
(Donor 2021)
Posts: 4625
Joined: 27 Nov 2005, 19:07
x 39

Re: Rounded off locking wheelnut

Post by jgra1 »

my LWN caught me out in Feb, after a pothole puncture on route to a funeral! AA called, he cut the top of the LWN (at a weak spot) off and then got it out.. I think he used a slide hammer / impact driver to sort it.

Bought 4 normal bolts the next day!
Markta
Posts: 34
Joined: 11 Apr 2020, 23:20
x 1

Re: Rounded off locking wheelnut

Post by Markta »

I have these on my vehicle, and the nut is complete with the protruding bit still intact

http://www.jamesandtracy.co.uk/mainimag ... l_tool.jpg

Have tried six or seven tyre filters who say the only way to get them off is by welding a nut onto LWN but surely there must be another way.

I can imagine drilling the top off then through the middle and hammering in a torq or spline socket and turning it with a breaker bar but I’d imagine it’s very tight
slackgarry
Donor 2023
Posts: 45
Joined: 17 Apr 2020, 11:38
x 2

Re: Rounded off locking wheelnut

Post by slackgarry »

When i Bought my C1 it came with no Locking key for the Nuts. Drilled down the center and Banged in a T50 and would them off with a breaker bar. Had to-do all 4.

I found it easier with Cobalt drill bits and cutting fluid.

Good Luck
Kind regards

SlackGarry
Black 2008 C1, Petrol, 1KR-FE Engine. aka the GoKart
User avatar
bobins
Donor 2023
Posts: 5744
Joined: 05 Jul 2012, 18:07
x 2895

Re: Rounded off locking wheelnut

Post by bobins »

I've read of a fairly brutal but effective way of shifting some of them. Park the offending wheel about a foot away from a sturdy wall or immovable object. Use a screw jack between the wall and wheel to wind on the original LWN tool or similar socket and hold it on there tight, then brutalise (however you can) the socket around to undo the stuck bolt or nut. This isn't universally effective, but might work with the right tool on a suitably stuck nut or bolt.
Sadly no longer a C5 owner :(
User avatar
white exec
Moderating Team
Posts: 7445
Joined: 21 Dec 2015, 12:46
x 1752

Re: Rounded off locking wheelnut

Post by white exec »

The Irwin removal sockets are on Amazon.
Chris