V6 24v Engine Mounts

Post by **David Hallworth1** » 20 Mar 2005, 00:17

Does anybody know if the engine mounts on the 90 degree V6 are the same as the 60 degree V6. I have a V6 24v Citroen XM (1991 original 200bhp version - 90 degree V6), and suspect it to have a leaky Head Gasket, I have been offered a 60 degree V6 24v out of a 406. Would it be a straight forward job to fit it? The one from the 406 is likely to be 210bhp isn't it?
Regards
David.

FrenchLeave · Post by **FrenchLeave** » 20 Mar 2005, 03:48

Like the song said, it ain't necessarily so. Up to '99 the 60 deg V6 was 194bhp. The power increase was due to the introduction of variable valve timing. Sorry I can't help you with info about the engine mounts.

Post by **David Hallworth1** » 21 Mar 2005, 14:18

I thought it was 197BHP, probally wrong though!
Regards
David.

FrenchLeave · Post by **FrenchLeave** » 21 Mar 2005, 23:57

You may well be right David, can't think where I saw 194. The 1997 XM sales brochure quotes 195, shall we settle for that? (academic to me - I don't usually see more than 4500rpm (110mph, although I did once see 4800). It is still a very s m o o t h engine with a fair bit of dig.

406 V6 · Post by **406 V6** » 22 Mar 2005, 00:04

The mounts are probably diferent.
As for the horsepower, the 60º V6 had, at a first stage, 194BHP, and with the introduction of VVT and other things, the power increased to 211BHP.
Of coursen this engine on the Clio V6 is a lot more powerfull, but that's a story i don't know of.
Cheers!

FrenchLeave · Post by **FrenchLeave** » 22 Mar 2005, 00:25

David, just as a matter of interest, some info on the 210bhp V6 can be found at http://www.citroenet.org.uk/html/c/c5tech2.html. Sorry, I don't know how to post this address so that you can just click on it.

FrenchLeave · Post by **FrenchLeave** » 22 Mar 2005, 00:27

Har, Har! It looks as if I did know after all!

VisaGTi16v · Post by **VisaGTi16v** » 22 Mar 2005, 04:35

To confuse matters more, perhaps it was writted as 197 when it was in PS not bhp as 197PS is ~ 194bhp

Post by **David Hallworth1** » 22 Mar 2005, 05:37

Frenchleave,
When i followed the URL, there was nothing there.
Regards
David,

rossd · Post by **rossd** » 22 Mar 2005, 13:28

Remove the full stop at the end of the address

tonyg · Post by **tonyg** » 22 Mar 2005, 13:44

Hi All
Interesting C5 site. Since I have a 2000 XM V6, I wonder whether it's a 194bhp, 197bhp or a 210bhp? Anyone know if these engines have external difference that differentiate them?
Tony

ActivaV6uk · Post by **ActivaV6uk** » 22 Mar 2005, 18:14

The only diference is what car it came out of from the point of view of looks. david can you email me at home, i have no access to my work's email. (andyc at activanet.co.uk)
Andy

406 V6 · Post by **406 V6** » 22 Mar 2005, 19:26

The 194BHP has one black cover on the front cilinder block,
while the 211BHP has a full plastic cover, silver in color, if i'm not mistaken.

FrenchLeave · Post by **FrenchLeave** » 22 Mar 2005, 23:10

I think you'll find the black cover with silver ribbing was fitted on the 90 deg V6. My car has the silver cover with the three false inlets which don't lead anywhere and the "chrome" lettering "V624". It is unfortunately the 194 (195? whatever!)bhp version. On another track, references to knock preventers retarding the igition persuaded me to stick a tankful of expensive jungle juice into my car. I've just completed a fastish 200 mile trip over single carriageway roads with plenty of full throttle overtaking (I believe in spending the minimum time on the wrong side of the road)and about 15 miles town work. The result? no noticeable difference in performance and fuel consumption unchanged at 24 mpg overall. So it's back to regular. Tonyg, how does that compare with your car? Incidentally., I don't think Peugeot allowed Citroen to fit the 210 bhp engine - typical big brother!

406 V6 · Post by **406 V6** » 22 Mar 2005, 23:35

As a point of interest, i used to fill the tank with 95 octane at first. Fuel consumption was 16L/100kms. Using BP 100 octane, fuel consuption droped 4~5l! This, mostly town driving!
BTW, this IS the 194BHP 60º V6, A.K.A. ES9J4 (my baby...and for sale[:(]):

Cheers!