Suspension sinks on Sundays! C5 X7 that works hard + 206 GTi HDi (and 406 Coupe and 306 HDi). - MattBLancs

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ECU mount tip:

Sorry for the horrible aspect ratio, YouTube has decided it's a Short

And driveshaft boot weirdness:
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mickthemaverick wrote: 17 Aug 2026, 21:00 How about:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/205392845016 ... R8z4zpSCaA

OR:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333607405041 = dimension pic on this one :-D

Unfortunately, this is what I need:
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And definitely not the reality of it, which is worse!
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DIY clip fabrication
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Car largely back together. No clutch pedal yet, needs proper bleeding it seems. Bubbles under gravity had stopped so thought I'd won that battle
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Short suming up:
The fabricated clips do work, most successful is that made from the big paper clip. That wire is 1.5mm diameter, compared to 1.2mm measured on the rusty remnant. I thought this was near enough but it popped off initially when out under pedal pressure. Slimmed down slightly with belt sander, the popping off stopped.

However, watching closely as the pedal is depressed, you can see the assembly shifting somewhat. (It did even more so with the MK1 DIY clip made of thinner gauge wire!)


This puts me below 100% faith in my DIY clips. I've tried to find them to buy but have been defeated thus far. The type as per Mick linked earlier - which appears very similar to other wire clips elsewhere in the clutch system - will not engage effectively with the pipe on both sides at once (it will just about grab one side if positioned "just right". I tried the old slave cylinder's clip of this type - no good, sadly.

Even looked at borrowing a clip from one of the other vehicles here, none had a matching clip.

Annoying - why so annoying will become clear in next few days :)
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This is what I need:

"CILINDRO RICEVENTE RACCORDO SPURGO FRIZIONE CITROEN C4 PEUGEOT 308 9676664180"

Or

"PSA 9676664180 Kupplungsnehmerzylinder NOS NEU genuine xn32656"

Or

https://ebay.io/m/bzhYv2

Autodoc lists it,
https://m.autodoc.co.uk/citroen-peugeot/27029793
But doesn't think it'll fit the 308!?
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Car France 24??

https://carfrance24.com/en_GB/p/Clutch- ... inal/16941

New site to me

Ah forget them, a union jack symbol means "site in English" not "we deliver to the UK" #-o
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Can you fabricate them from piano wire? Comes in several gauges and will be stronger than paper clips although harder to work with.
B&Q should have it, perhaps Screwfix/ToolStation/Machinemart etc.
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Another thought following Steve's idea, possibly bend from a kingsize safety pin? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/205603135678 :)
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Thanks both, think I'm going to bite the bullet and stump up £45 on the assembly it sits in. I realise the clip I'm basing a new one off maybe less than the full picture (i.e. there's more to it than what's in front of me) that'd mean the "flex" I'm seeing us a result of an incomplete (new DIY made) clip rather than my attempt being a poor imitation.

If I could find a decent picture of the damn thing (in as new condition) I'd certainly have another go at making one, but I've tried and failed to find a decent image.

Icing on the cake was Google image search (looking at the picture of the clip I shared above) was quite convinced it was a "dried up earthworm" err, good try! :)
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Bought
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Night all, busy day tomorrow :)
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Well done night!
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MattBLancs wrote: 20 Aug 2026, 18:00 DIY clip fabrication Image

Car largely back together. No clutch pedal yet, needs proper bleeding it seems. Bubbles under gravity had stopped so thought I'd won that battle
It took me once over 45 mins gravity bleeding let nature do its thing.
Husky. :? Thinking outside of the box is better than sitting in a dark one.
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Them clips , great job of making one .
Husky. :? Thinking outside of the box is better than sitting in a dark one.
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This topic has the procedure for bleeding the double clip slave cylinder. I had one on our last C3 and what a pain it was to bleed. I found using a Mityvac pump on the bleed nipple helped to suck the fluid through.
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PaulC5 wrote: 20 Aug 2026, 22:58 This topic has the procedure for bleeding the double clip slave cylinder. I had one on our last C3 and what a pain it was to bleed. I found using a Mityvac pump on the bleed nipple helped to suck the fluid through.
viewtopic.php?t=69955

Interesting, thanks! That C3 setup seems a little different again!

Agree, vacuum bleeding via the bleed side connection works well. That what I did on the Blue 308 when changed the master cylinder (just ahead of finding out it was the (concentric) slave cylinder at fault then! #-o

(In fact to make double, triple , quadruple sure I'd definitely bled it fully, I actually tried both positive pressure (Easibleed via brake master cylinder cap) PLUS vacuum bleed on the clutch bleed nipple too!!

In fact the condition of that car's clutch bleeding setup is what relaxed me not to check the red 308 clutch bleed setup closely. Kicking myself I didn't catch quite how rusty this was first thing in starting the task. Diagnosing and finding a replacement part part, last Saturday would have that car functional now :(

Ah well. The reason that hiccup was extra annoying will be explained with a picture shortly :)

EDIT: sorry, forgot to take a picture. 260 miles covered today. Lack of functioning air conditioning was key downside of otherwise comfortable trip in the "back up option" grey 308 SW. An indicated 60 mpg and, despite predominantly motorway and what should be fast flowing A road (neither fast nor flowing in places!) something like 36 mph average speed for the day too.