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The French Car Wiki general discussion

Postby Stickyfinger » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:11 am

ahh.....a Stealth Wiki.


forgot the link mate :)
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Re: The French Car Wiki preview

Postby CitroJim » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:35 am

Stickyfinger wrote:ahh.....a Stealth Wiki.


forgot the link mate :)


No we didn't.... It was a bit shy.. It's got over it now :wink:
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Re: The French Car Wiki preview

Postby Stickyfinger » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:14 am

May I suggest a contact is made and permissions asked to translate this page and its guides ?
http://xantia.voila.net/
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Re: The French Car Wiki preview

Postby xantia_v6 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:32 am

Stickyfinger wrote:May I suggest a contact is made and permissions asked to translate this page and its guides ?
http://xantia.voila.net/

In principle that is a fine idea, thanks for volunteering!

We need to be careful with copyright of any material, we have chosen to publish the wiki with a Creative Commons non-commercial copyright, so any material we copy must be already under a similar or looser copyright. The site in question would seem to be OK in this regard, but I am not sure that they have obtained copyright of all of their pictures.
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Re: The French Car Wiki preview

Postby Stickyfinger » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:09 pm

xantia_v6 wrote:In principle that is a fine idea, thanks for volunteering!
.........awwwa bugger, hook line and sinker

xantia_v6 wrote:We need to be careful with copyright of any material, we have chosen to publish the wiki with a Creative Commons non-commercial copyright, so any material we copy must be already under a similar or looser copyright. The site in question would seem to be OK in this regard, but I am not sure that they have obtained copyright of all of their pictures.


Quite experienced with the whole thing about copyright, also I am VERY firm with using other peoples material....or them using ours :)

Let me drop the page a line (unless someone already knows them/can speak French, lives there )..............
xantia_v6 wrote:In principle that is a fine idea, thanks for volunteering!
(got ya !)..........and I will be happy to work thru each guide bit by bit over time. (This project only however pls)
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Re: The French Car Wiki preview

Postby Old-Guy » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:44 pm

Some 9 years ago, when we bought the 'Green Lady' as the second Xantia in the family, I started documenting jobs that I did on one car for future reference when I did the same job again. As I made great use of the forum it seemed only fair to contribute by offering advice and making my own guides, in PDF form, available on my own website. I freely admit to 'borrowing' pictures and instructions from this forum, and on occasion copied drawings from service.citroen, which might be problematic. Logically Citroen ought to welcome the use of their data for obsolete cars which includes part numbers that will generate spares sales, but most large corporations jealously protect their rights. For reasons that I won't go into, I had to close down my site and this material has been looking for a new home; The French Car Wiki would seem to be the ideal place.

Each source document for my PDF guides is an Open Document Text (.odt) file which can be exported equally easily as PDF or HTML. Would it be more sensible to pass them over as as ODT files for peer review? Even MSO can now handle Open Document files.

I'll compile a list of my guides and add it to this post.
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Re: The French Car Wiki preview

Postby xantia_v6 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:05 pm

Thanks for the offer. The wiki software generally only accepts plain text and standard image formats. If you email me an example document (odt format), I can think about how to handle it.
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Re: The French Car Wiki preview

Postby wurlycorner » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:33 pm

8-)
But, question...
Why do we have to register for it separately? Why can it not operate within the existing forum?
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Re: The French Car Wiki preview

Postby CitroJim » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:49 am

The wiki and forum have different user authentication mechanisms Iain..

We will be looking into seeing if a single sign-on can be effected..
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Re: The French Car Wiki preview

Postby Old-Guy » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:29 pm

I would happily convert my own guides (for a start) if I had the necessary permissions.
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Re: The French Car Wiki preview

Postby xantia_v6 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:21 pm

Old-Guy wrote:I would happily convert my own guides (for a start) if I had the necessary permissions.


All offers accepted :-D

Follow the guide at: http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/wiki/in ... gistration and let us know if you need any more information.

We know that the current registration procedure is a little convoluted, but for technical reasons, it is the best we can do at present.
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Re: The French Car Wiki general discussion

Postby chinkostu » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:25 am

Theres a few odd jobs i could add onto there regarding the saxo as i cut my teeth on it, so to speak :rofl2:

Would be far cleaner than the stickies too especially if we can update the images as some are missing
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Re: The French Car Wiki general discussion

Postby xantia_v6 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:32 am

You are welcome to add content, there are a few things we need to do before declaring it fully live, but any content added from now will be preserved.

Follow the registration instructions that are on the wiki EXACTLY.
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Re: The French Car Wiki general discussion

Postby CitroJim » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:35 am

xantia_v6 wrote:any content added from now will be preserved.


Indeed, the wiki database is now backed up every morning along with the forum databases.

Photos, I believe, are stored in the database once uploaded so they will be there for good. Only linked photos may be at risk of disappearing so always upload them to the wiki before using them in an article..
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Re: The French Car Wiki general discussion

Postby xantia_v6 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:37 pm

I have just updated the wiki software with a minor security update. This update has fixed the issue with intial random passwords not working.

I have also installed the Mediawiki VisualEditor. This allows What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) editing of most content. It generally makes it much easier to edit and add content to the wiki.

Existing wiki users will notice that there is an extra 'Edit source' link everywhere that there is an 'Edit' link. The 'Edit' link now takes you to the VisualEditor and the 'Edit source' link takes you to the old wikitext editor which is unchanged.

You may notice that the VisualEditor takes quite a while to initially load (maybe 20 seconds), it is not broken, and it will tell you if it times out. It is much quicker to load for subsequent edits.

If you want to try out the new editor, or contribute anything to the wiki, send me a PM with your preferred email address, and I will add an account for you.
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