Faithful Phase 1 Xantia now a rough classic! What next

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Faithful Phase 1 Xantia now a rough classic! What next

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Hiya all,

As you've always been great here, I wanted to share a little 'progress' report. By progress I mean survival!

I worked out recently that this car which is now 22 years old I've had for 8 years through ups downs and general busy life progressions. It cost me £140 in 2008 with a water leak and rock hard spheres, though I spent over a grand on it over the last 2 years with pump recondition and clogging injectors etc!

More than that, at 8 years, it's the car I've had the longest through driving for 20 years, it's sort of the best most loyal car I've had. Arguably I should have kept my neat CVH powered Sapphire in 2006 as that was the only car I've had that sailed an MOT but I only had it 3 years or so.
Anyway so the Xantia is turboless - slow, It still doesn't start when warm (or probably really cold), the clutch cable nylon thing snapping did keep it off the road a few months but only broke me down exactly at work! Every long journey it has trooped on and come home again somehow. It even let me take it round the track at Haynes Museum at Retro Rides Gathering 2010! Great car.

It's no longer our daily drive though so currently on my classic policy making the biggest cost of keeping it full fat VED, and MOT/repairs etc. I keep getting twitchy about getting something else or even just getting it sold to concentrate efforts and funds on other cars/things. I'd also like another retro car or modern bargain old car. I have a soft spot for this now, even though it's one major fail from a scrapper in theory. I do worry about the cable snapping again or the clutch going fully even though it's got no worse. It drips oil but runs so well for 160k and is a cheap back up car. What to do?!

Here are some current no frills pictures and a list of what it needs to keep it sweetish...

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good side see bash on rear door when I crashed into myself with an A frame on a greasy roundabout. So little spot of grot on wheel arch.
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Bad side this rear bit was bubbling but a crazy commuter literally flew past it doing a 270 degree spin one morning while it was parked. We didnt claim annoyingly as we'd only just recovered the front end that year from someone cutting across our lane.
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The horror under.
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Slightly older pic, repair centre did a great job of the near side front. original bumper, wing and bonnet
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Crumbled - currently zip tied together

NEEDS:
[*]A proper rear door ideally in same colour to work with central locking and manual wind window, this one was bodged fitted by previous owner.
[*]A gear knob
[*]Leak fixing on rear window seal boot gets soggy and damp
[*]split rear seat (40% bit)
[*] starting issue fixing more, maybe a new positive cable next, maybe starter motor. Starting fine at present if not run hot
- an annoying little alarm noise weeps sometimes too!
[*]needs a decent steering cowl attempted theft a few years ago. they also wrecked the lock top bush.
[*] possibly LHM refresh and check over. 8 years since I replaced those spheres too.
[*]slow oil leak fixing
[*]possibly injectors - makes do with Forte Injector cleaner every now n then.
and probably other stuff.




older pics
When we picked it up in 2008
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Re: Faithful Phase 1 Xantia now a rough classic! What next

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been through the wars that! being an XUD it'll soldier on for years and years, mine gets some hammering at times :rofl2:

I have a spare gearknob that'll fit sat around actually, shame about needing the rear seats too - I did have the set from mine sat around for ages before the wife made me tip them.
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Yeah, underneath it's a decent car, was owned by someone I knew's mother, so local easy going trips out, loads of history and things, suppose I've bashed it but not let it go to the scrapper. Looking at options on gear knob, everything considered of course :) The seat isn't a big issue actually it's just not locking in place anymore thats all. could bodge it shut. most of the time I just leave the seat belt plugged in. Just that and the door being wrong makes it not ideal to carry a passenger on that side.
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Does the little button on the seat back still operate the latch inside the seat? Could be stuck open and require some percussive maintainence ;)
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Poor Car! :shock: Needs a bit lot of TLC
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chinkostu wrote:Does the little button on the seat back still operate the latch inside the seat? Could be stuck open and require some percussive maintainence ;)
I don't think it does. The mechanism has got a bit dislodged. I might have to have a faff with it, either fix or modify-fix because otherwise the seat is fine. It's not really been a serious issue but be nice to lock it.
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GiveMeABreak wrote:Poor Car! :shock: Needs a bit lot of TLC
It does really, most people would get rid of it now, or even get rid of it before. My pal who sold it me said if I didn't buy he was going to take it to a breakers! Really was a pity then as it was quite a bit neater as you can see. It seems mad to invest in fixing it up, but I would like to a little if it's staying a bit longer. I have 4 cars including our daily now. I'm very tempted to sell the Cortina and cash in some Ford tax, cost me much more work and money and not worked a fraction as hard for us.
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Also it is not entirely as bad as it looks. It's had a cam belt, though that was 2010 now :O it's got 4 decent new tyres, Front 2 Yokos brand new, tracking perfect, runs great in general (cold weather will be a test again) everything important works, rides great, 1 brand new strut top, some new cabling, professionally reconditioned fuel pump, brand new alternator, Brand new negative battery cabling. new clutch cable and genuine Citroen nylon securing clip thing, new return pipes on front struts, brand new loudspeakers so stereo sounds great, and other bits n bobs.

Although I'm not ruling out selling in the future, grass greener and all that, a reliable and cheap Citroen specialist and/or body work/welder would be welcome to check her over and spruce up some bits. ... :)
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I'd say having spent that amount on the fuel system and with it being solid underneath you'd be best served keeping it and spending a bit on getting it back up to scratch. Got to admit I do have a soft spot for base model cars with electric nothing so maybe I'm biased, 160k is seriously not even halfway to being worn out as far as a non-turbo XUD is concerned. Regular cambelt and oil changes would likely see that engine happily chug away past the 400k mark or at the very least it'll see the rest of the car out.

a CVH powered saph though, I can only hope it was running on Webers or K jet as the EFi is truly a pain on them... Managed to get a good balance on our Escort between high revs on coasting/stalling coming to junctions, after a lot of plug changing, ICV and breather cleaning, fiddling with the CO and air bleed screws etc but there's still a huge flatspot just where you want the engine to make a bit of torque... Seriously considering a change to carbs if it wasn't so original or even a small turbo
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I don't mind base spec smaller cars (I had a saxo with electric nothing!) But it gets to be a pain on larger cars trying to reach the mirrors and opening the back windows for the dog!! :D
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Haha yeh, I have nothing against specced up examples either as long as it's all working. It's the "middle of the road" stuff that I like less, must be an "all or nothing" sort of person I guess. Probably my two favourite cars ever are my poverty spec 1.8D 205 Junior and the BMW 735iSE that even had electric headrests and sunblinds... :rofl2:
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