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How many horses do you think the removal of a cat will offer? Alterntiavely, what % of gain do you think you could obtain?
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Roughly 1 cat = 2 or 3 horses.
However 1 dog = 6 horses, 2 cows = 1 dog (unless its a poodle) and again it all depends on the type of cat, if its a tabby, manx or ginger tom as ginger toms are worth more.[;)]
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1 cat=a loss of 9% power typically and an increase in fuel consumption AND GREENHOUSE GASES of between5 and 9% Tear the damn' thing off!
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My MPG improved by around 5 mpg or 10% when I decatted. Low down torque improved too.
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by LeFrog</i>

How many horses do you think the removal of a cat will offer? Alterntiavely, what % of gain do you think you could obtain?
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If Kiwi laws are the same as Aussie ones, you'd better start selling horses, race horses, to pay the fine if you get caught.
I asked the question and was told it will cost $20,000 if caught.
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twenty grand for knocking off a cat? Blimey Alan, how much do milliners out there make?
Seriously, that's the cost of a new car over here. The legislators have got you by the short hairs AND THEY ARE BLOODY WRONG!
Most of the pollution a car creates is in the manufacturing stage which is why
taxes on cars should be reduced with age, becoming free at the 20 year point. I don't suppose that it would encourage people to look after their rolling stock, but scrapping the old cars is not the answer.
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So.. how do you go about removing it and will that affect the emission test at MOT time?
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Can you not dismantle it and remove it's innards so it looks like its still there. You can always just claim that its broken MOT time.
And is that law really enforcable? When I buy a new car I dont check to see that somebody hasn't pinched parts of its exhaust.
I am always banging on about how I'm saving the planet driving my crappy old Citroens. The truth is I'm too tight to buy a new car but as you say Anders I dont want to be the cause of a whole load of pollution. Honest.
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If caught, they put the car off the road; you have to either get caught in the act or admit to it, but out here the Politicians and public servants get "lobbied" by car makers and oil companies (we used to call it bribing, but lobbying makes it sound more ethical) so they can get away with murder. Laws like that are best described as "Taurus excretia" laws that are there for frighteners but rarely if ever used.
We have these on the spot car inspections where the transport department (a governing body that makes the Gestapo look like a Christian based charity) can stop you at the roadside and examine the car for faults. Particularly in my CX I used to like getting pulled over and as I stopped, drop the hydraulics so the car sat too far down for them to get under and then try not to laugh while some dumbarse tried to stick his boof head under the car, stuck his hand under & found the exhaust, jagged himself on sharp edges and all the glorious things CXs do to you when you don't know them.
In the finish, they just used to wave me past......ahh; the joys of driving a Citroen.[:D][:D]
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As far as I know, there are no restrictions here in NZ. I have never had an emissions test done in while living here (12 years).
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Post by 405turbo »

Your best bet is a decat pipe. Any custom exhaust place should be able to make one up. It bolts in the place of the cat and then you just whack the cat back on come MOT time.
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Or you could try one of these.
http://www.rakaror.o.se/
Click on the "bomb" to the right flashy end pipes. They show it fitted instead of a cat (and I don't think many MOT stations in the UK could identify it!) it gives up to 30% more power on the R19 it was fitted to. Unfortunately it's all in Swedish, but there are several references to rolling-road tests that justify their claims.
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So I can expect to get 2 or 3 horses if I kill the cat?
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Post by uhn113x »

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Can you not dismantle it and remove it's innards so it looks like its still there. You can always just claim that its broken MOT time.
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But will that not affect the readings when they stick the breathalyzer up its tailpipe?
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Don't cats change CO into CO2, the stuff that makes holes in the ozone layer?
Originally they did a 25 year tax exemption to appease the classic car lobby, after that halfwit Mawhinney proposed taxing cars that were off the road (what price motor museums, dismantled cars, etc? pah!)
Much trumpeting was done, then in the next budget they surreptitiously changed it to a fixed date of 1/1/73, and didn't tell anyone [:(] I only found out when I put '25 year exempt' on a V10 for the class, and the Post Office changed it to 'Historic Vehicle'
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Post by tomsheppard »

And the palladium and Rhodium used in cats are hard won from the ground as well as being highly poisonous. How many cars have been rusted out by the acid rain that forms when the H2S from the cat combines readily with rain? Cats are a cure that is worse than the disease, foisted upon us by Governments panicked into doing Something, anything, by environmental lobby groups who think that the red flag act should be reimposed.
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