I`ve often been told when ordering parts that i need the RP number for my Xantia.I`ve looked under the bonnet where i`ve been told, but cant find it.
Can anyone throw any light on this for me please.Thanks...
"RP" numbers
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I would gues that what you call "RP" number we may call "VIN" (Vehicle Identification Number) which in the old venacular was called the "Chassis Number" and is usually stamped on the top of the mudguard in the channel where the return of the bonnet sits and usually on a RHD car on the passengers side.
It seems all Governments employ little men in pin-striped suits wearing rimless glasses to sit in offices all day to think up intials to conserve words (possibly employed by the Dept of Conservation) they are probably known as Acting Officer of word conservation and intitialising useless phrases (or an AOOWCAIUP) His job will be to report to the OICOUO (or Officer in charge of Useless occupations) who will then report to the Deputy Director of information for instigating Useless phrases (DDoIfIUP) who in turn will answer to the CEO on the results of the UITCW (Useless Information to Conserve words) Convention that was held in the Bahamas last spring the results of which proved conclusively that all this stuff is a PItA (or Pain I the A***)
Life was so much simpler when all we had was engine & chassis numbers and they didn't have to find ways to emply unemployable people to make the statistics look good, so after all that, my guess is the VIN or Chassis number. There are ORGA numbers but I doubte they will tell you what's in the car only exactle when it was made.
Alan S [:D][:D][:p]
It seems all Governments employ little men in pin-striped suits wearing rimless glasses to sit in offices all day to think up intials to conserve words (possibly employed by the Dept of Conservation) they are probably known as Acting Officer of word conservation and intitialising useless phrases (or an AOOWCAIUP) His job will be to report to the OICOUO (or Officer in charge of Useless occupations) who will then report to the Deputy Director of information for instigating Useless phrases (DDoIfIUP) who in turn will answer to the CEO on the results of the UITCW (Useless Information to Conserve words) Convention that was held in the Bahamas last spring the results of which proved conclusively that all this stuff is a PItA (or Pain I the A***)
Life was so much simpler when all we had was engine & chassis numbers and they didn't have to find ways to emply unemployable people to make the statistics look good, so after all that, my guess is the VIN or Chassis number. There are ORGA numbers but I doubte they will tell you what's in the car only exactle when it was made.
Alan S [:D][:D][:p]
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The RP number is not the chassis number but a four digit number relating to when the car was built. On your Xantia you will find it as a 'painted stamp' on the bulkhead just behind the O/S/F sphere, also found there is the three letter paint code.
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So then it's the "ORGA" number?
Why would a parts dealer need that, as spare parts changes are nomally based on serial number as the defining point when a part was changed with really no definite association with the day it was built?
I'm not saying you're wrong but it seems a strange way of doing it particularly when you consider how many cars go down an assembly line every day.
Alan S
The RP number is not the chassis number but a four digit number relating to when the car was built. On your Xantia you will find it as a 'painted stamp' on the bulkhead just behind the O/S/F sphere, also found there is the three letter paint code.
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So then it's the "ORGA" number?
Why would a parts dealer need that, as spare parts changes are nomally based on serial number as the defining point when a part was changed with really no definite association with the day it was built?
I'm not saying you're wrong but it seems a strange way of doing it particularly when you consider how many cars go down an assembly line every day.
Alan S
http://www.cats-citroen.net/index.html
Your car was born on june 3 1996 !!!!!
Your car was born on june 3 1996 !!!!!
I wonder if it's because you guys work on this "H (or whatever) registered" system where you use a letter to designate the year of registration rather than as we do here, a compliance plate date plus engine & VIN numbers.
I know with Jap cars, if you were to give them a DOM (Date of manufacture) a few years ago, there could be as many as 3 differences between a car assembled in the morning to one done at 5 O'Clock which is why I question the logic of using the date to determine compatible parts.
Perhaps the Froggies are more oirganised than the Japs??[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
Alan S [:o)]
I know with Jap cars, if you were to give them a DOM (Date of manufacture) a few years ago, there could be as many as 3 differences between a car assembled in the morning to one done at 5 O'Clock which is why I question the logic of using the date to determine compatible parts.
Perhaps the Froggies are more oirganised than the Japs??[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
Alan S [:o)]
Heres a handy link, gives a full description of the numbers and a handy calculator that works out when you car was built.
http://www.citroen.mb.ca/organr.html
http://www.citroen.mb.ca/organr.html
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The letters ERYMR would be the paint code, normally its just the first three letters which matter.
The RP number system was used to order parts from dealers up until a couple of years ago when a centralised computer system was introduced.
Basically the RP number identified a particular batch of vehicles produced, giving a relatively simple system to order spare parts.
With the centralised system, the VIN number (Vehicle identification number/chassis) identifies each particular vehicle to its last nut and bolt, including extras fitted at the factory leaving no room for error when ordering parts (in theory!).
However, now try and order a part for you car which wasn't fitted to it at the factory, such as when putting in leather electric seats and you need a switch/motor for them. The dealer now requires the VIN number from the donor vehicle because the old method of searching on say Xantia which would bring up all options available when new, no longer appears to be avaiable. Progress..........
The RP number system was used to order parts from dealers up until a couple of years ago when a centralised computer system was introduced.
Basically the RP number identified a particular batch of vehicles produced, giving a relatively simple system to order spare parts.
With the centralised system, the VIN number (Vehicle identification number/chassis) identifies each particular vehicle to its last nut and bolt, including extras fitted at the factory leaving no room for error when ordering parts (in theory!).
However, now try and order a part for you car which wasn't fitted to it at the factory, such as when putting in leather electric seats and you need a switch/motor for them. The dealer now requires the VIN number from the donor vehicle because the old method of searching on say Xantia which would bring up all options available when new, no longer appears to be avaiable. Progress..........
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philhoward
All car manufacturers will "bleed in" the introduction of a new model year (i.e. model year 05 for 2005 now) starting around June-time (maybe only a few cars a day), going fully on stream around September/October time. To buy a 2004-model car in late 2004, then the car could be over 12 months old, although some cars can sit in fields/parking lots/rectification bays (in the factory) for another 3-4 months on top of that...