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Could be but that would suggest building a petrol engine emits significantly more than building a diesel because the rest of the vehicle is the same. I can't really buy that! 

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I haven't watched the video, but does he define specifically what 'emissions' are ? 'Emissions' covers an awful lot of things.
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A pretty comprehensive all round cover of all that bobns. Interesting man to watch unlike many of the video makers.bobins wrote: 22 Jan 2025, 14:16 I haven't watched the video, but does he define specifically what 'emissions' are ? 'Emissions' covers an awful lot of things.
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Depends what they're talking about - CO2, NOx, particulates etc. Diesels are lower on CO2, but higher on others.mickthemaverick wrote: 22 Jan 2025, 12:23 he said the Tesla emissions were 90% better than petrol and 70% better than diesel. That suggests that diesel is better than petrol?
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He was referring to 'full life cycle' emissions

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Just passed the Nissan factory on the bus and it looks like they are constructing a huge battery factory there.
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It's been the plan now for a couple of years.myglaren wrote: 22 Jan 2025, 16:09 Just passed the Nissan factory on the bus and it looks like they are constructing a huge battery factory there.
https://www.electrive.com/2023/11/24/ni ... factories/
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Have they not got mains then Steve?myglaren wrote: 22 Jan 2025, 16:09 Just passed the Nissan factory on the bus and it looks like they are constructing a huge battery factory there.

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I read something about it a few months ago.
It is not somewhere I would normally go but was on the bus to South Shields police station with documents relating to the car and was impressed with the scale of it.
Also the amount of cars parked outside the Nissan factory, literally thousands of them.
Took some phone photo's but they are probably crap.
An hour to get there, an hour to walk to and from the police station only to be told I had to have my son with me with his documentation and another hour on the bus back.
Went to the P.O. for driving licence forms and they didn't do them, had to go to another one. The DVLA/P.O. showed half a dozen within a few miles including one about 100 miles away.
Still ploughing through them and finding proof of identity.
And they want a cheque!
Have a book of cheques here with only one taken out, in our joint names. She has been dead ten years.
When I told the bank they sent me two new ones in my name only, unopened until now.
It is not somewhere I would normally go but was on the bus to South Shields police station with documents relating to the car and was impressed with the scale of it.
Also the amount of cars parked outside the Nissan factory, literally thousands of them.
Took some phone photo's but they are probably crap.
An hour to get there, an hour to walk to and from the police station only to be told I had to have my son with me with his documentation and another hour on the bus back.
Went to the P.O. for driving licence forms and they didn't do them, had to go to another one. The DVLA/P.O. showed half a dozen within a few miles including one about 100 miles away.
Still ploughing through them and finding proof of identity.
And they want a cheque!
Have a book of cheques here with only one taken out, in our joint names. She has been dead ten years.
When I told the bank they sent me two new ones in my name only, unopened until now.
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Finally had a chance to watch that video, but I think it might have been changed since you posted it, Gibbo, as the bit that mentions having to run peaker plants or battery farms to cover the non production of electricity from solar and wind when it's not sunny or windy was missing from the 'emissions' calculations



If he's going to make a fair and reasonable comparison.... then it ought to be a fair and reasonable comparison....... but then I think his video is actually aimed at people who want their viewpoints confirmed and isn't actually meant to cover absolutely every outcome and permutation.
The problem with videos like this is that they fall down when you look at the bigger picture. Car emissions, or indeed fossil fuels, aren't the problem - they're a symptom of the problem. The actual problem is too many people and they're all doing too much and buying too much. Just about all the 'solutions' seem to revolve around BUILD. Build new EVs, build new power grids, build new wind turbines, build new houses, build new heat pumps. And when they all wear out, build more of them. And again. Until that problem is tackled head on, all the EVs, wind turbines, and new power grids in the world isn't going to do much apart from - metaphorically speaking - change the day the planet becomes uninhabitable from a Friday morning to a Thursday afternoon

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I have to agree there bobins, but I think that there is a secondary problem directly linked to the population issue. That is greed in all its nasty forms. It will never be eradicated because of its own existence. The eternal spiral to disaster!!



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This is of general interest but EV drivers around London moreso:
https://www.tempcover.com/front-cover/n ... s-for-2025

https://www.tempcover.com/front-cover/n ... s-for-2025

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That London Mayor seems intent on squeezing all his citizens until their pips squeak.
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I'm sure this will be an interesting read for many members!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorri ... -solution/
And this is Dave's video where I found that link:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorri ... -solution/
And this is Dave's video where I found that link:
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Today's podcast, for a lady who has spent ten years in the USA the accent hasn't been lost.

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