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Stickyfinger wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 09:29 Not the same as the image you have posted.....
Yes sorry Alisdair should have read the Bronco thread fully. A few pages in the poster revealed it as a joke... edited out now!
As revealed at the bottom of the image<br />(This actually from an Audi)
As revealed at the bottom of the image
(This actually from an Audi)
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That looks like it would be great craic to work on. Sarcasm intended
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Using a far more reliable source of evidence than internet opinion, pictures of second hand engines for sale on pallets from salvage yards, and not having found an Audi/VW engine to be a good match, I think that this is the most likely engine in the picture...

A BMW N63B44A V8 Twin Turbo.
The N63/S63/S68 has the characteristic turbo's inside the V, and also those characteristic grey/silver Metal "pots" leading up to the turbo's either side of the V. The example in the table shows a decent match for those pots, later versions of the engine, the "pots" are slightly different.
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The grey pots are air to water heat exchangers (sometimes called a charge cooler) I believe (rather than conventional air to air heat exchangers i.e. intercoolers)

Let's you keep boost pipework length / volume low but needs coolant lines, an additional radiator (separate system to the engine cooling system radiator) and circulation pumps to shove the coolant round.
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MattBLancs wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 20:53 The grey pots are air to water heat exchangers (sometimes called a charge cooler) I believe (rather than conventional air to air heat exchangers i.e. intercoolers)

Let's you keep boost pipework length / volume low but needs coolant lines, an additional radiator (separate system to the engine cooling system radiator) and circulation pumps to shove the coolant round.
Thanks Matt, excellent additionals there, didnt know what to call them :-D

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I've got a new one in a box (to fit a Renault / Nissan, rather than this Audi / BMW engine in the pictures) - I had a mad idea to add it to my 2.0 HDi 306 (which has no intercooling as standard) when i stumbled across it (irresistibly cheap, new in the box, from memory something like £20!) on eBay a good few years back.

Still sat in the box (and the 306 is sat waiting a considerable amount of welding or a trip to the big scrapyard in the sky) so I can offer you a picture come the weekend if desired! :)
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Wondering if that engine has one of these onboard too:
Example picture from Google, think these are Renault items
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a water cooled alternator!
Sometimes used by VW, BMW and strangely Renault (I looked into one a bit ago after hearing mention of it somewhere. Yes, because I really am sad like that! :hole:
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MattBLancs wrote: 18 Jun 2024, 23:10 Still sat in the box (and the 306 is sat waiting a considerable amount of welding or a trip to the big scrapyard in the sky) so I can offer you a picture come the weekend if desired! :)
Shove it on POTD Matt. I did try to inspire a bit of incongruous objects photography. Take a shot of the Heat exchanger/charge cooler against a background of something incongrous, like my track rod end on a bag of cement here...

viewtopic.php?p=763575&hilit=incongruous#p763575

Or Flex Brake Hose Clips and Puffins here
viewtopic.php?p=763027&hilit=incongruous#p763027

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