C3 Picasso Clutch Issues

[Huskyxantia]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144884219346 ... media=COPY

Upgraded parts.

[Huskyxantia]

So these have now been purchased the listing states..
Copied from ebay..
Replacement washers for pivot bolt on the clutch pedal for all Citroen and Peugeot 1.6hdi engines.

These replace the green washes on the clutch pedal pivot bolt to stop the wobbling side to side movement and loose pedal that is a common problem for these vehicles.

simply remove the 13mm nut and push out the pivot bolt, slide the new washers in Each side of the pedal and re assemble. some pedals may require the 20mm lip to be removed from one of the washers. (a hack saw does this lovely)

Produced from hard wearing Natural Nylon

white in colour

Pack contains x2 washers

£6 not to bad for todays sort of prices so ive got a set as a get out of jail card !

[CitroJim]

I'd very much tend to agree on the mis-alignment causing the failure Husky...

Having one, I'm watching with very great interest and hope a good solution will soon be found so that you can settle down happily with what is otherwise an excellent car...

[Huskyxantia]

Thanks Jim, i was very close yesterday evening to parting ways with the car till the mechanic said , if someone comes along gets it cheap, spends a few pounds on whats needed & its all sorted then they get a decent car with everything done & im looking for another car which may have worse or more things wrong .

The car had to be brought back from where the clutch dropped , some 7 or 8 miles away but it was done & back home about 5ish it was dark by that time plus my mates , whom work together had been fitting an engine back into a van that day & came to my aid after there work , so pretty good of them to do that , they said they re-blead the clutch but it got to a certain point and lost presure, which is the same that happend to me when i tried it before a friend of the wifes came and got us after the wife called her , plus to be honest it was quicker doing that than waiting for a certain breakdown very nice man company
A couple of hours sorting what was needed too which ive got for the car should be back up & running by this time next week ,

[Huskyxantia]

As for the other route if i was to get another car , id miss the picasso, there ok to work on , but as my mum once said a while back , get something smaller & easier to fix the older you get . But i dont known.
Maybe an estate ? Or a total different car , nissan cash cow ? Yes ive read the horrors of these too

[Huskyxantia]

Well i clear the way to get a great view of the clutch pedal , the pedal has slight play but not sure if there is enought to justify the failures, now look at the photos , picasso vs 308cc ... this i feel is the real problem .

Shout out for @marc, if you see my post is my picasso missing a piece from this spring set up .

[CitroJim]

As for the other route if i was to get another car , id miss the picasso, there ok to work on , but as my mum once said a while back , get something smaller & easier to fix the older you get . But i dont known.
Maybe an estate ? Or a total different car , nissan cash cow ? Yes ive read the horrors of these too

In a lot of ways, better the devil you know Husky... I see all moderns as horrors and at least the Picasso is still just about fixable in most departments - the least of the modern horrors perhaps...

The tales of woe I hear from non-car enthusiast friends these days... Fact is, all moderns are far to complex now for their own good...

To get a car that's simple and easy to fix now means going back a long way - and that brings its own set of challenges...

Stick with what you have... I'm hoping to stick with mine until we're compelled to go electric and a suitable vehicle is affordable... Currently nothing suitable and nothing affordable...

[Huskyxantia]

So true Jim , ive just this minute taken the master cylinder plunger peddle off is nipple, the pedal returns via spring but the feeling is pretty weak & lazy anyway my mechanic friends popping round later today so nows its all open for him to get a good view and i will see what he thinks.

[Huskyxantia]

Also the fork release arm i tried that by hand & can feel it working the bearing nice and smooth push and slight pull making out i was the slave cylinder on the box . So at least the fork & bearing are ok .
I was wondering about ... see the next post , need to go take a photo.

[Huskyxantia]

Fluid seen was done by me trying to bush fix the repair with out tools .

That little grey flexi pipe looks a little bit of an air inlet area. The gear box end nothing looking like its gone bad, the end of the slave which sits in the fork cup , im not sure what them black bits are seen sticking out , maybe padding to help rubber wear ? Oil filter housing covered in fluid , but this will all be cleaned off once the problem has been sorted. He hopes.

[Huskyxantia]

Plan is , remove the arrangement from the car, then compare with the replacement when it arrives. Till now .....we wait for the stuff to turn up.

[Huskyxantia]

Bleeding .

1. 2 man one opens the nipples while other pumps pedal
2. 1 man , using vaccume procedure.
3. Combo of 1&2
4 give up .... go electric ...

[CitroJim]

Watching all with great interest Husky

Bleeding: in my experience, 2-man bleeding is best, failing that, one man with a one-way valve. I have a vacuum bleeder. It's OK for a fluid change and the initial job but I find it causes air to bleed in around the nipple threads and spoils the job... I vacuum bleed initially and then change over to the non-return valve for the final bit.

[Huskyxantia]

Theory of mine, possible week areas that could over time allow air to enter the system see red circles on the picture.
So tomorrow i will check these areas .

[mickthemaverick]

On top of those Husky I have known hydraulic pipes to actually go porous along their length so don't automatically assume they are sound!! While you have it apart I'd suggest you seal and pressurise each pipe to ensure you don't have that issue.