Citroen c3 picasso

[CitroJim]

Pleased to hear you're well on the mend Husky And all the best with the clutch - may this see the solution finally found and the problem resolved once and for all

[Huskyxantia]

I don't mind admitting when your feeling rough it makes a repair harder ! But I am the bearer of good news.
Here's what i did today.
1. Carefully disconnected the feed pipe from the master to the slave
None of this pipe was seated into any clips at all.
2. O-ring renewal, everyone replaced even if they looked ok I still renewed them.
3. Re-placed the feed pipe & clipping it back to where it was intended to sit.(now we're see if this could been allowing air in due to it not being seated correctly, don't ask me why or who did this , but removal of the whole battery and air intake system opened up so much for me to view it was shocking seeing this important pipe work 'free floating! And so on to number 4
4 Bleeding the system, & an intersting turn of events..
4a, gravity bleeding, clip out pipe out bubbles fluid till clear fluid runs into bleeding bottle.
4b clutch pedal almost there so I try , 2 man method or as I say me & wife bird , she worked the pedal I did the clip pipe out , pipe in clip in with corresponding pedal push pump positions over n over like a classic larrel & hardy movie.
5. Oops no pedal , now I'm concerned. Oh no here we go again....
6 vacuum method , pedal sort of back , but something still don't seem right. Oh I give up , the gut is crying out for food....
7. Lunch , brain storm occurs! My suspicion is there is air stuck in the system, I check the brake booster that's all good so can rulemout any issue there ,nice air noise when pipe was pulled so that went back in as i say ruled out not a problem. So here's the brain storm, here we go brake fluid filler cap off, slave cylinder pipe pulled out after clip partially undone the clip next to the bleed nipple , and my Theory of air , well lots of it gurgled back into the filler bowl quick caught by masses of rags , using a springe removed fluid as it bubbled and rose then it stopped, I stopped suction, pushed the feed pipe back home & clip in on the slave cylinder, fluid bowl (reservoir bowl)cleaned up ,opened driver door to see a pedal now sitting higher than the brake pedal about an inch or just a bit less, pressed the clutch pedal to the floor with my foot, what ya know a nice firm clutch , worked it up and down a few times all good., it was as I the fluid bowl the fluid was being bleed into might of wheel been contributing to a back surge of air back into the system , as it was primed , the pressure went as soon as I unscrewed it's lid , with a whoosh and some spillage of fluid , this was done after the clutch slave cylinder was clipped back home, so maybe this bleed method sort of hindered bleeding in some sort of way , I can see it in my head but can't write it down so I hope I make sense.

[Huskyxantia]

This is the larger of the 2 pipes on the clutch master cylinder as you can see some peeling going on of the pipe protection (green coating) I rubbed this all off so no high spots, maybe this was letting air in the system ?

Also a in the mouth moment as the white clip came apart into 2 pieces but after a clean it went back together hugging the pipe. Plus a new o-ring was added to the end of the pipe itself then all popped & clipped back home into the master cylinder

[Huskyxantia]

So there we go , cars going again , stay tuned for the next instalment of ...husky n clutch ...my wheels turn just a few hundred miles before we're on the back of an AA truck !

[mickthemaverick]

Fingers crossed Husky!!

[CitroJim]

And another set of fingers crossed here Husky! An interesting read above

[Huskyxantia]

Drove the car to move it off the drive & washed the drive down it's all clean and looks like a snow covered field , nice thick foamy soap doing what soap does ! Clutch felt ok , I'm now feeling uncertain about driving the car now but I will , eventually, why do I keep looking at the Nissan cashcow ? No I mustn't. Stick with the devil you know ? Maybe ?

[Huskyxantia]

So forgot to mention I did a diagnostic scan on the picasso , it came up with egr cold side closed , I guess maybe because the engine wasn't running anyway , it's due a service March,April time so I might take it out & see if it needs a clean , part of the service interval I guess . No other faults came up so I was pleased with that. Here's to the new year 2025 let's see what's instore for the picasso shall we .

[CitroJim]

Oh no, not a CashCow Husky

Definitely best to stick with the devil you know

[mickthemaverick]

If you do get sidetracked and coerced into a cash cow, make certain you give the CVT gearbox version a very wide berth. I had one on the maintenance fleet a couple of years ago and it cost over £3k in the end to sort it, after which it was sell it and lick the wounds time!!

[Huskyxantia]

I watched a video earlier on YouTube a chap changing his clutch master cylinder seems the ones on the 207 model come with one of the fluid pipes already attached .

[Huskyxantia]

WARNING Beware of this dealership

I would like to warn people about one of the most dishonest car dealers I've ever come across in my whole life. I purchased a c3 picasso from these low life's, it's been one heck of a project & a money pit, I was sent a video of the car one the day the sale was being set up , it looked real good , sounded amazing , then after I found out it wasn't the car I purchased from them it was another picssso , same engine size & car colour too. If I can find this video I will get screen shots to compare the 2 cars, anyway please if you or you know anyone considering getting another car Please AVOID this company .



Once called as follows
Owens motor group
Owens motors
Ownes cars
Owens motor group Ltd.

Now going under the name of. ARLINGTONCARS
Location is the same see attached to this post.

[PaulC5]

Good to see it is sorted. When bleeding the clutch have you been always doing it with the reservoir cap on ? I always do it with the cap removed. When using the pedal I think it does not work well since the clutch itself is pushing back so once the pedal is at the bottom the clutch pushes the slave back so air just goes back rather than out.

[Huskyxantia]

Cap off, using vacuum method

[Huskyxantia]

Good to see it is sorted. When bleeding the clutch have you been always doing it with the reservoir cap on ? I always do it with the cap removed. When using the pedal I think it does not work well since the clutch itself is pushing back so once the pedal is at the bottom the clutch pushes the slave back so air just goes back rather than out.

I did gravity, works but not the best , vacuum works best which is what I did then I had a back flush of air back up to the bowl , so I had to take some fluid out, syringe, then when it stopped i popped the filler cap back on then checked the pedal it was up & firm as it once was.