C8 2.2HDi really hates hills - turbo or DPF issue perhaps?

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Re: C8 2.2HDi really hates hills - turbo or DPF issue perhaps?

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I don't know, as my Rev B Lexia will only go up to v7.15 and works properly (even though it should only go to V7.14!).
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My version is a lower version as like what Hell Razor5543 said modern versions seem to not want to do what you want them, i had to roll back to an older version last year and i had more simpler functionality and it ran smoother too... on another note i do like my maxicom machine it does lots more and faster.
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I've run the car through the laptop I have. I'm currently on V7.62 but I don't think it's high enough. I tried Lexia, wow was that from the 70s!!! It said no to everything apart from Injection? Looked at it and basic faults. So I restarted the app and selected diagbox at 7.62. 11 codes later... 3 stupid bsi ones, 1 I can't remove is F something because coolant is to low, rubbish. 2 for tyres which don't bother me as I removed the internal tyre pressure sensors as stupid with the metal valve sticking out that snaps easily! The only issue is P1404 which is EGR which I expected. The problem I have is how the fck do I reset the FAP counter!
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Reset it , aslong as the pouch is full your be ok , egrs are a pain in the arse.
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That's the problem, I don't know how to. It took me awhile to figure out on diagbox that I don't have a C8, I have a C8 CAN. I think that's short for C8 CAN and will draw blood, sweat and tears from you when you try to work on it.
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Youtube it.
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:rofl2: :rofl2: I'll have time tomorrow but knowing me once I find it on YouTube I'll get sucked into the YouTube wormhole and not accomplish anything
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Huskyxantia wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 14:36 I may of solved your issue check the element inside the maf sensor ... is there one or has it burnt out.
It took me a week or so to spot this, and than many more weeks to finally give up trying to work out which safe place I put my Lexia in. This morning, I speculatively unplugged the MAF, expecting the car not to run. And it's TRANSFORMED. Seems to run perfectly and climbs hills with ease.

I suspect it's running a bit rich, but not sure. I don't really understand how it's running at all without the sensor.

Anyway, I shall now go and source a replacement. Thank you! (I'm kicking myself for not trying this months ago - but it was giving a reading which looked rational with Lexia, so I thought it was working.)
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Rp0thejester wrote: 27 Sep 2023, 18:43 That's the problem, I don't know how to. It took me awhile to figure out on diagbox that I don't have a C8, I have a C8 CAN. I think that's short for C8 CAN and will draw blood, sweat and tears from you when you try to work on it.
Mine seems to talk both "C8" (VAN I think) and "C8 CAN", but it only detects the VIN in "C8" mode. However, in C8 CAN mode, the data polling rate is quite a lot higher, so I started to use that when I realised.
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Oh and a side note on the dangers of Lexia. I've had a "1 tire pressure sensor missing" error displayed pretty much since I bought the car. While I was in doing diagnostics a month or so ago I thought "I'll just take a look at make sure I can't reprogram that missing sensor" (in case it's not a battery fault). So now I have "4 tire pressure sensors missing". ;-)
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Re: C8 2.2HDi really hates hills - turbo or DPF issue perhaps?

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If the MAF is unplugged the ECU goes into default mode. As you have discovered a quick and easy test to see if the MAF is functioning correctly.

If you can access it you may be able to clean it. I used carburettor cleaner but ther is now a dedicated MAF cleaner (same thing I suspect).

Mine was ailing as the wheel arch liner had exploded and exposed the air + water, grit and leaves intake and made a mess of the MAF and filled the air filter with water and roadside crap.

A couple of squirts and it was OK. Don't touch the wires with anything other than the spray and don't drop or shock the MAF, they are exceptionally fragile.
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Re: C8 2.2HDi really hates hills - turbo or DPF issue perhaps?

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tearing hair out wrote: 28 Sep 2023, 09:25
Huskyxantia wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 14:36 I may of solved your issue check the element inside the maf sensor ... is there one or has it burnt out.
It took me a week or so to spot this, and than many more weeks to finally give up trying to work out which safe place I put my Lexia in. This morning, I speculatively unplugged the MAF, expecting the car not to run. And it's TRANSFORMED. Seems to run perfectly and climbs hills with ease.

I suspect it's running a bit rich, but not sure. I don't really understand how it's running at all without the sensor.

Anyway, I shall now go and source a replacement. Thank you! (I'm kicking myself for not trying this months ago - but it was giving a reading which looked rational with Lexia, so I thought it was working.)
It will revert back to default settings , not sure if it would pass an mot as the emissions will be slightly higher.
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myglaren wrote: 28 Sep 2023, 10:10 If the MAF is unplugged the ECU goes into default mode. As you have discovered a quick and easy test to see if the MAF is functioning correctly.

If you can access it you may be able to clean it. I used carburettor cleaner but ther is now a dedicated MAF cleaner (same thing I suspect).

Mine was ailing as the wheel arch liner had exploded and exposed the air + water, grit and leaves intake and made a mess of the MAF and filled the air filter with water and roadside crap.

A couple of squirts and it was OK. Don't touch the wires with anything other than the spray and don't drop or shock the MAF, they are exceptionally fragile.

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Certainly did but worked OK for years after.
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I'll take it off tonight and see if it looks cleanable (rather than just broken) - thanks.

And yes, I suspect it will not pass the MOT. On Tuesday...