1995 Pug 306 - light(ish) restoration
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Took the 306 out for a leg stretch in to the Peak District at the start of the week on my day off, a good day was had by us and our German Shepherd who didn't mind the slightly cosier space in the back than he is used to.
One discovery I did make though when parking up at our destination was the boot floor mat had water all over it quite worryingly. It hadn't rained on the journey but we had had a few days of pretty heavy showers while the car had been parked. Did a quick investigation and noticed the offside rear light unit was full of water, as I discovered when I removed the nuts and pulled the light unit out and had a steady river of water fall to the floor.
I'm assuming the seal at the top of the light is perished somewhere while the seal at the bottom of the light is still working but unfortunately trapping water inside!
Boot carpet underlay stuff is absolutely sodden so I've opted to replace it as I don't want a soggy sponge layer sat against the boot floor as I don't fancy any more rust issues.
Yesterday I finally got around to fitting my newly acquired and overhauled towbar assembly, with new 7 pin socket, also wired in a trailer relay, not sure it was strictly necessary but ideal to stop any unwanted electrical glitches.
It actually looks surprisingly neat, I was expecting it to foul the rear plate somewhat but it hasn't. It was relatively easy to fit, however on the exhaust side obviously access was somewhat tricky, I used a trolley jack to lift the bar up and hook on to the studs that are on the inside of the bumper bar to support it while bolting up. Luckily I didn't get too much crap in my eyes.
Tested all the lighting before I left the workshop and that appears to be good, so all done! I can finally get the trailer out the garage and shift some of the stuff to the tip that my other half gently reminds me about every so often.
One discovery I did make though when parking up at our destination was the boot floor mat had water all over it quite worryingly. It hadn't rained on the journey but we had had a few days of pretty heavy showers while the car had been parked. Did a quick investigation and noticed the offside rear light unit was full of water, as I discovered when I removed the nuts and pulled the light unit out and had a steady river of water fall to the floor.
I'm assuming the seal at the top of the light is perished somewhere while the seal at the bottom of the light is still working but unfortunately trapping water inside!
Boot carpet underlay stuff is absolutely sodden so I've opted to replace it as I don't want a soggy sponge layer sat against the boot floor as I don't fancy any more rust issues.
Yesterday I finally got around to fitting my newly acquired and overhauled towbar assembly, with new 7 pin socket, also wired in a trailer relay, not sure it was strictly necessary but ideal to stop any unwanted electrical glitches.
It actually looks surprisingly neat, I was expecting it to foul the rear plate somewhat but it hasn't. It was relatively easy to fit, however on the exhaust side obviously access was somewhat tricky, I used a trolley jack to lift the bar up and hook on to the studs that are on the inside of the bumper bar to support it while bolting up. Luckily I didn't get too much crap in my eyes.
Tested all the lighting before I left the workshop and that appears to be good, so all done! I can finally get the trailer out the garage and shift some of the stuff to the tip that my other half gently reminds me about every so often.
Cheers,
Miles
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1995 Peugeot 306 XLd
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2003 Saab 9-5 3.0 V6 TiD
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It's not got a towbar, but mine used to visit the tip often!

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Good job you found that wet boot and water-cooled rear light cluster Miles
Wet boots are a shocker for feeding tin worms...
It's odd how 90s French cars are so prone to leaking around their rear light clusters... I've not known one yet that hasn't at some point in my care/ownership...
Towbar looks good

It's odd how 90s French cars are so prone to leaking around their rear light clusters... I've not known one yet that hasn't at some point in my care/ownership...
Towbar looks good

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Hi everyone,
Sorry for my disappearance a short while ago, I've been working an awful lot, and then for my birthday last month I was treated to a heart attack and a week long hospital visit! At a mere 30 years old this is of course not what I expected, but it is known to happen to some younger people and I'm currently recovering well.
As I am obviously signed off work at the moment, I've suddenly become rather un-busy, so as I've been able to get out of the house a bit more, I've made bits of progress on car related stuff, but as the 306 has taken a bit of a back seat while I sort more pressing matters with my daily, a 2006 C6 2.7 HDi, I've decided to adapt this thread to represent stuff I am doing overall rather than with just the one car. As some of you may have worked out, I also work as a sole trader part time so sometimes I get a bit of a change of scenery with what I'm doing repairs on.
I entrusted Woodlinkin Citroen Centre near Ripley to repair my C6, after it unfortunately failed its MOT in June with a bit of an expensive list of stuff to do (not surprising) and today I got a call to say it is ready, much to my delight. Unfortunately I am now over £2000 lighter!
I'll post in a bit more detail when I get chance, just a quick update for now.
Sorry for my disappearance a short while ago, I've been working an awful lot, and then for my birthday last month I was treated to a heart attack and a week long hospital visit! At a mere 30 years old this is of course not what I expected, but it is known to happen to some younger people and I'm currently recovering well.
As I am obviously signed off work at the moment, I've suddenly become rather un-busy, so as I've been able to get out of the house a bit more, I've made bits of progress on car related stuff, but as the 306 has taken a bit of a back seat while I sort more pressing matters with my daily, a 2006 C6 2.7 HDi, I've decided to adapt this thread to represent stuff I am doing overall rather than with just the one car. As some of you may have worked out, I also work as a sole trader part time so sometimes I get a bit of a change of scenery with what I'm doing repairs on.
I entrusted Woodlinkin Citroen Centre near Ripley to repair my C6, after it unfortunately failed its MOT in June with a bit of an expensive list of stuff to do (not surprising) and today I got a call to say it is ready, much to my delight. Unfortunately I am now over £2000 lighter!
I'll post in a bit more detail when I get chance, just a quick update for now.
Cheers,
Miles
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If it just about starts and drives, I'll probably buy it.
1995 Peugeot 306 XLd
2007 Citroën C6 Lignage
2003 Saab 9-5 3.0 V6 TiD
Miles
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Thanks for the update Miles and sorry to hear your issues, however you do seem to sound (read?) in better spirits so onward and upward. 

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Get well soon (and well done on towbar fitting and keeping the C6 in good order)


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Glad you're recovering well and still tickingOrbit Motors wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 16:51 Hi everyone,
Sorry for my disappearance a short while ago, I've been working an awful lot, and then for my birthday last month I was treated to a heart attack and a week long hospital visit! At a mere 30 years old this is of course not what I expected, but it is known to happen to some younger people and I'm currently recovering well.

Keep well.
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But given near global, and some countries don't have many Peugeot/Citroen= good confidence it's not linked to old French car ownership!bobins wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 20:26 Myocarditis (causing a 'heart attack') - and also liver disease have shown a rapid and unexplained increase across all age ranges in the last couple of years. This appears to be a near-global issue. The jury is still out and what's causing the increase.
Keep well.

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Well french cars can do that to you, I'm slightly happy that I'm not the only person here in his 30s. But obviously wouldn't wish I'll health on anyone....maybe a puncture on Jim's bike, but no I'll health
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You need to broaden your mind, Matt. It could be caused by StellantisitisMattBLancs wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 20:46But given near global, and some countries don't have many Peugeot/Citroen= good confidence it's not linked to old French car ownership!bobins wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 20:26 Myocarditis (causing a 'heart attack') - and also liver disease have shown a rapid and unexplained increase across all age ranges in the last couple of years. This appears to be a near-global issue. The jury is still out and what's causing the increase.
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Oh Miles, so sorry to hear your news but so happy all is OK, recovery is progressing well and all is looking good 
I used to like you Ryan


That's very worrying... It'll be interesting to know why in due course...bobins wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 20:26 Heart attacks - or rather Myocarditis (causing a 'heart attack') - and also liver disease have shown a rapid and unexplained increase across all age ranges in the last couple of years. This appears to be a near-global issue. The jury is still out and what's causing the increase.
Ahh, so you're the one with a voodoo doll in the shape of my front wheel sticking nails in it are you?Rp0thejester wrote: 14 Aug 2023, 20:47 But obviously wouldn't wish I'll health on anyone....maybe a puncture on Jim's bike, but no I'll health


I used to like you Ryan


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Thank you everyone for all your comments of support!
Well my confidence in the C6 lasted all of a day before I broke down on the way home yesterday!
Automatic gearbox issues, my own fault really as I've been meaning to flush it through again for sometime. Last year when I first bought it, it suffered the issue of a failed heat exchanger as the wall inside the galleries had cracked resulting in water and oil mixing together. At the time, a temporary-ish solution was to drain the gearbox, flush it through with lots more oil and refill it. Then change the oil again sometime later and so on. And of course flush the cooling system as well.
The fix was to isolate the heat exchanger and keep the cooling system separate, but I feel this may have been alright during the colder months, now though not so much, especially if working the car hard.
Next job is to either devise a different cooling method (probably by air) or find a suitable replacement heat exchanger, but I'm not keen on spending so much money on something likely to fail again in the future of course.
Cars, eh?
Well my confidence in the C6 lasted all of a day before I broke down on the way home yesterday!
Automatic gearbox issues, my own fault really as I've been meaning to flush it through again for sometime. Last year when I first bought it, it suffered the issue of a failed heat exchanger as the wall inside the galleries had cracked resulting in water and oil mixing together. At the time, a temporary-ish solution was to drain the gearbox, flush it through with lots more oil and refill it. Then change the oil again sometime later and so on. And of course flush the cooling system as well.
The fix was to isolate the heat exchanger and keep the cooling system separate, but I feel this may have been alright during the colder months, now though not so much, especially if working the car hard.
Next job is to either devise a different cooling method (probably by air) or find a suitable replacement heat exchanger, but I'm not keen on spending so much money on something likely to fail again in the future of course.
Cars, eh?
Cheers,
Miles
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If it just about starts and drives, I'll probably buy it.
1995 Peugeot 306 XLd
2007 Citroën C6 Lignage
2003 Saab 9-5 3.0 V6 TiD
Miles
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Oh dear!
I think some sort of air/oil heat exchanger i.e. oil cooler e.g. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234020370087 should be easy to find a home somewhere in the nose (certainly if it's like my C5, there's a surprisingly large amount of nothing between radiator itself and very front if the car!)
Would need some sort of thermostat to stop overcooling in the winter I'd think.
I think some sort of air/oil heat exchanger i.e. oil cooler e.g. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234020370087 should be easy to find a home somewhere in the nose (certainly if it's like my C5, there's a surprisingly large amount of nothing between radiator itself and very front if the car!)
Would need some sort of thermostat to stop overcooling in the winter I'd think.
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Managed to get hold of a tested secondhand heat exchanger for a good price on the Facebook group for the C6 which is convenient, at least with it being pressure tested I can at least relax in the short term!
This week has been an expensive one for both me and my other half it seems... when you hear the dreaded "can you have a look at my car?" you know you're in for a treat.
She has a Grand C4 Picasso, which was a bargain I picked up from someone at work who was prepared to scrap it for just a faulty handbrake and a small gearbox issue. It has definitely done us well as I paid £400 for it, which in this climate is a bargain, especially when it cost no more than around £70 to fix the handbrake (faulty switch) and the gearbox (selector issue, EGS gearbox). But anyway...
"It's driving a bit funny"... yep that'll do it! When I got the car, no more than around 9 months ago, I put it through its MOT and it needed some work to the front wishbones, so I asked one of my usual trusted places to change both of them. Now, whether they didn't track it when they were supposed to, I cannot be sure, but the tracking was out yesterday by a staggering 17 degrees on one side. Slightly less on the other. The tyres were done at the same time, and while we only went for budgets as the car spends most of it's time trundling to take the dog for a walk and going to my other half's work and back a few miles away, it is still irritating that we've wrecked a pair of front tyres.
For some reason there is a significant price jump from the likes of 205/55R16 to 215s which is irritating as the standard fitment for it is the latter. Still, we got a pair of iLink L Grips for £52 each, and they are very respectable as far as cheap tyres go. Now that it is properly tracked and has new rubber, it drives like a new car. Happy days... for now!
This week has been an expensive one for both me and my other half it seems... when you hear the dreaded "can you have a look at my car?" you know you're in for a treat.
She has a Grand C4 Picasso, which was a bargain I picked up from someone at work who was prepared to scrap it for just a faulty handbrake and a small gearbox issue. It has definitely done us well as I paid £400 for it, which in this climate is a bargain, especially when it cost no more than around £70 to fix the handbrake (faulty switch) and the gearbox (selector issue, EGS gearbox). But anyway...
"It's driving a bit funny"... yep that'll do it! When I got the car, no more than around 9 months ago, I put it through its MOT and it needed some work to the front wishbones, so I asked one of my usual trusted places to change both of them. Now, whether they didn't track it when they were supposed to, I cannot be sure, but the tracking was out yesterday by a staggering 17 degrees on one side. Slightly less on the other. The tyres were done at the same time, and while we only went for budgets as the car spends most of it's time trundling to take the dog for a walk and going to my other half's work and back a few miles away, it is still irritating that we've wrecked a pair of front tyres.
For some reason there is a significant price jump from the likes of 205/55R16 to 215s which is irritating as the standard fitment for it is the latter. Still, we got a pair of iLink L Grips for £52 each, and they are very respectable as far as cheap tyres go. Now that it is properly tracked and has new rubber, it drives like a new car. Happy days... for now!
Cheers,
Miles
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If it just about starts and drives, I'll probably buy it.
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2007 Citroën C6 Lignage
2003 Saab 9-5 3.0 V6 TiD
Miles
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I'd look "either side" of the suggested size
215/50R16,
215/60R16
Sometimes there's a more common size close enough to cause no issue.
I remember it was common to put 195/50R15 rather than 195/55R15 on the 306 Cyclones as they were about a third cheaper!
215/50R16,
215/60R16
Sometimes there's a more common size close enough to cause no issue.
I remember it was common to put 195/50R15 rather than 195/55R15 on the 306 Cyclones as they were about a third cheaper!