Speed Limits

[bobins]

I still have my badge from when I did that

Cycling proficiency badge - own work

[NewcastleFalcon]

Nicely out of date from 2014, if anyone has anything more current please post up.

Click on highlight for article couple of minutes scan should do

Can cyclists be fined for speeding?

The only cyclist fined for speeding popping up on the net, appears to be one caught breaking the by-laws of Richmond Park and reaching a reported 37 mph on his bicycle.

Maybe its changed now. With 20mph speed limits on the increase pretty easy to be able to pedal faster than that.

Regards Neil

[mickthemaverick]

I still have my badge from when I did that

Me too although its in the loft which is currently impersonating a kiln!!

[Gibbo2286]

I remember (When I were a lad) my dad always cycled to work and had done the same journey for thirty years, one day he'd crossed a junction and was waved down by a cop, "Why didn't you stop?", "where" says dad, "at the halt sign" says the cop.
Overnight they'd put up a halt sign and stood a cop there to police it, dad had to go before the magistrate and got fined ten shillings quite a lump when his 48 hour week only paid four pounds ten shillings.

[bobins]

"Speeding offences - Because bikes aren’t fitted with speedometers, cyclists can’t be charged with speeding offences. HOWEVER, if they are considered to be going too fast for the conditions, they could be charged with ‘wanton or furious cycling’ which is a criminal offence under section 35 of the Offences Against the Persons Act 1861 (as amended by the Criminal Justice Act 1948 s1(2))"
https://www.roadlawbarristers.co.uk/wan ... -cyclists/

Cyclist regs - roadlawbarristers

[Rp0thejester]

Well I never knew that, that's interesting.

[Gibbo2286]

I would expect loud cries of woe from the cycle fraternity if they enforced those laws.

[bobins]

I would expect loud cries of woe from the cycle fraternity if they enforced those laws.

To be fair, there'd be loud cries of woe from the motoring fraternity as well if all the motoring laws were enforced

[Rp0thejester]

Especially black cab drivers in London, there supposed to carry a bale of hay in the boot

[Paul-R]

I thought the bale had to be at the front of the passenger compartment. And that's why the FX3 taxi cab had that strange open parcel area next to the driver's compartment. Mind you, I've always suspected that story was apocryphal.

[Rp0thejester]

Nope, has to go in the boot which is why they have one, even though all passengers keep their luggage with them in the rear passenger compartment. A mate of mine was ex Met and he used to pull them over when bored just for a laugh

[NewcastleFalcon]

This should be up to date. Its from the horses mouth, Gov.uk

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Not sure that many HGV drivers on the single carriageway routes A697/A68 and single carriageway stretches of the A1 through Northumberland and over the border observe the 50 mph English Side or 40 mph Scottish side, other than times where known speed cameras exist.

Goods vehicles (more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight) in Scotland 40 mph
Goods vehicles (more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight) in England and Wales 50 mph

The other odd ball in that list is the "Car Derived Van" or "dual purpose vehicle" which have the same speed limts as cars while "normal" vans have a restriction of 50mph on single carriageway roads....hello speed limit observing couriers.

These days driving professionally as part of your job, your employers and fleet managers have access to a wealth of "management data" from the vehicles, monitoring how their vehicles are being driven and whether speed limits are being consistently exceeded. They maybe have a duty of care with the information they have to take action to prevent habitual speeding, and not just abrogate responsibility for fines and points when caught to the individual driver.

REgards Neil

[mickthemaverick]

Anorher point I would pick out from that is the restrictions when towing . I see many drivers on the A1 towing small trailers, 6x4 or similar, overtaking me when I am on cruise control at 65. Modern powerful estate cars, from Germany mainly, are very capable of 100+ with a towed load and the drivers do not seem to pay any attention to the towing limits.
Throughout the summer months there is a throng of caravans hammering up the A1 and A10 on a friday evening as the owners seek to get away for the weekend. The same flock tend to return on Sunday evenings down the A1 to get back to their London homes in time for the kids to get to bed for school in the morning.
Sadly I have also seen some of those kids presumably kneeling on the back sofa of the caravan and waving to the likes of me as they overtake me at my sedately 65. I honestly wonder what sort of person can afford a big Audi and caravan yet not have the common sense to stay legal in both seating their passengers and driving within the law?

[NewcastleFalcon]

Sadly I have also seen some of those kids presumably kneeling on the back sofa of the caravan and waving to the likes of me as they overtake me at my sedately 65. I honestly wonder what sort of person can afford a big Audi and caravan yet not have the common sense to stay legal in both seating their passengers and driving within the law?

I havent seen that Mick thankfully but they do deserve to be well and truly shopped with a bit of dash cam footage.

REgards Neil

[bobins]

The other odd ball in that list is the "Car Derived Van" or "dual purpose vehicle" which have the same speed limts as cars while "normal" vans have a restriction of 50mph on single carriageway roads....hello speed limit observing couriers.


REgards Neil

Two of these pick-up trucks have the same speed limits as a car, one of them doesn't. Can you tell which is which ?

Various pickup trucks - Isuzu, Ford