siemans rd3 (01) upgrading?

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Ah i see, i thought because it said iphone it would have software within it which made it only suitable for them. As it happens & in the mean time i managed to speak to someone at Amazon about this and they are going to contact their technical team regarding it's compatibility so for now it's in my basket & i'll await their email response.
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I'm looking to power my amp' & sub and came across this but i cant get my head around how it works, if at all. I'm not even sure if its supposed to be a power supply or speaker supply, any one any idea's? if it works for speakers it'll save me tapping into the cars factory speaker wiring, if it's a power supply im guessing the sub will still need a direct feed off of the battery. the radio may even need configuring?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-audio-IS ... 3267572809
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Note the yellow plug states "no connection"
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The purple lower connector is for the CD changer port I mentioned that the other devices will connect to in previous posts.

As for your AMP, it will depend on what model and how many channels it has as to how it is wired up and whether it will accept speaker connections directly, or whether they need line out conversion first. But an Amp should generally be separately connected to a suitably fused power source and not to any of those connections on the quad lock as that connection will only be rated for for suppling the existing Audio and any approved equipment and not an AMP.
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The amp i have is a Soundlab cpa 504n which is a 4ch unit, whilst it was on my xantia it benefitted from being connected to the sony head unit via 2 rca outputs and had it's own direct battery feed (fused) as well as a switched on/off signal wire. As i understand an Amp needs a low input from a head unit as they generally cant handle a high input & the amp then converts this to a high (AC) output to drive whatever, in my case a single sub'. This is why i need a line out connector (LOC) which is what that item is but with no obvious connection to any speaker output i don't see how it could work & the sub will still need a main battery feed.
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There is very little info on that system - I believe Maplin used to sell them years ago.

Each setup is going to be different depending on equipment of course, but yes, line level outputs are generally what is needed to convert the high speaker output from the head unit to low level input that the amp can use and then from there, the output connections from the Amp go to the speakers. You obviously need to ensure that your max RMS output of the speakers in the car can handle the RMS output from the Amp though or you'll likely blow them.

If you have a 4 Channel Amp, then that is usually to drive the 2 front and 2 rear speakers, but these can be used to run a pair of speakers and a subwoofer, with 2 channels bridged together to run the sub and the other two to drive the speakers.

Obviously you will need the line converters for the input if this unit does not already convert the inputs internally (unlikely for the year) and you'll have to connect the speakers / subwoofer to the Amplifier output and run a separate power feed for the Subwoofer.
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The amplifier won't be used to power any of the car factory speakers, at least not for a long long time as there's too many other jobs that the car needs before that. The job of this amp is purely for powering the sub.

I actually got this amp off a mate i worked with who sadly passed away some years ago & so although it's not ideal for the job, it's kind of overkill i partly keep it in memory of him & it replaced the kenwood amp that originally came with the sub.
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Have a look here - there's some good general info for various setups:

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-dw9uF1mBH ... n-amp.html
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I've been watching a few of their youtube video's this past week, they are good as they keep things clear & to the point & apart from radio frequencies there's probably not a whole lot of difference between US spec and european stuff.

As for the yellow iso connector, i sent a audio dealer a message on ebay asking if they thought it would work but looking at the wiring diagram i provided they were sceptical and suggested the green plug might actually work better but that doesnt have an earth out or switched amp feed so i might be back to the start and looking at a conventional LOC although i dont really want to be splicing into the factory (CAN) speaker wiring.
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Does anyone on here recall/know how to set up a Yatour device? a friend had a look for me but could only find RD4 options. Which/what menus to go into using PP200 or lexia, the RD3 has a CD changer button so there must be the option to at least add one, i'm presuming once a CD changer has been added (however you do that which seems to be the issue) the Yatour device will then work(?) If anyone has a step by step guide how to program it id be very grateful.
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Just make sure you get the RD3 compatible Yatour like the one I originally linked to. All that needs to be done then is to get into the BSI and ensure that the CD changer option is enabled - it may be there or by selecting the detected RD3 audio system from the listed ECUs after a Global test and selecting this, then checking the configuration menu.

There's no real exact way of doing this as it depends on the BSI / ECU options and the diagnostic equipment software version being used to make the changes as to which menu it can be unfortunately.

But here's a video for enabling the CD changer option for a 307 on an RD4 unit - it will be the same procedure for the RD3:

The configuration part is at time index 3:49.

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Thanks for that ⬆️ , with the help of another forum member who has a diagnostic laptop we got it working, not quite sure how as or what was done to actually configure it but it now works. For the record i have a Yatour YT-M06, whilst I'm happy with the product i would point out there's no technical back up from the company who sells them on Ebay (in Germany).

I've now moved on to trying to wire up the Amp using a Vibe Male-female connector unit but this doesn't work #-o ( I'm currently in touch with the Ebay seller)
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Having now tried two different types of 'Vibe' Line Out Connectors of which neither have worked i've pretty much given up on them and im looking to get something else that will do the job. It came to my attention today that the (yellow) mini iso plug/port is often referred to as 'line out' on a fair few wiring diagrams i've come across on the internet and i was wondering if something like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-audio-IS ... 3267572809 could be used to power the amp. It looks too good and too simple 'a solution to work, anyone any idea's?. I tested each terminal in the mini iso port and only pin4 had any power coming from it with the radio on. Unfortunately for what ever reason the amplifier no longer seems to be working, it was fine in my old car running off the Sony's rca ports but now it goes into protection mode whenever i connect it to the new cars wiring (via this Vibe LOC) so it maybe damaged, i've given it a direct feed off of the battery and it came to life once but the rest of the time the (red) protection light illuminates very dimly. I have ordered a replacement amp (2nd hand) but obviously i don't wish to connect this up and risk damaging that too, i will also be making an appointment with a local audio specialist asap. Any idea's and thoughts would be much appreciated.
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After a lot of messing around i'm hoping the amplifier issue is now finally sorted, i tried various connectors such as mini iso plugs and LOC's of which i suspect damaged my amplifier so i had to go out and buy another, this has now been fitted using a conventional LOC device wired into a speaker extension loom (rather than directly into the car harness) and so far the amp/sub and Yatour device all work together, all i've got to do now is fix the multifunction display so i can see what i'm listening to (not a bulb issue, faulty screen problem :roll: )
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At least you are making some good progress it seems. :)
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slowly but surely :roll:
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