Peugeot 207 - Nomade/KML, microphone

This unit is the RD4 or RD45 system, made by Continental.
Usually standard equipment unless another system is specified as an option. There are Single & Dual Tuner versions. RD45 features over the RD4: The RD45 has USB connectivity & integrated Bluetooth module supporting Phone & Audio Streaming.

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Re: Peugeot 207 - Nomade/KML, microphone

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Ventori wrote:
08 Dec 2020, 09:16
GiveMeABreak wrote:
05 Dec 2020, 15:01
I was aware of that, same for both.
I checked twice for this KML/NOMADE and didn't find anywhere. Can you eventually check it by vin if i have it installed by factory? Tomorrow i'm going to order RD45 and want to be sure :D

VF3**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

Thanks!
Your car had an independent telematic unit fitted, so the microphone link would of gone directly to that unit and from there to the Head unit.

I've just re-visited this topic so you do have the independent telematic unit fitted but not not the hands free telephone interface.

It is item (3) in this diagram:
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The independent telematic unit has these buttons on the front fascia
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To get to it, you'll have to Unclip and detach the independent telematic unit control panel (1) (at "a") using trim removal tools.
Disconnect the connector of the independent telematic unit control panel (1).
Remove the independent telematic unit control panel (1).
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You'll need to remove the glove box and the Audio Head unit. There is a mounting case to protect the unit (it is linked to the airbag control unit so be careful). Remove the bolt (2).
Unclip and detach the independent telematic unit support (3) (at "b"). But also remove the Fascia emergency call and service button unit.
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This is what the unit looks like:
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This is the 18 way black connector
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So the microphone enters this unit first of all via Pins 1 & 10 and exits through pins 2 & 11 to the connector at the back of the Head unit. But - as you didn't have the hands free kit or RD45, you'll need to trace back the wires from there on pins 2 & 11 to see where they exit.

KEY
Channel numberAllocation of channels of connector
1Microphone signal input (+)
2Microphone signal output (+)
3Not connected
4Emergency call button warning lamp supply (orange)
5Impact information
6Emergency call button warning lamp supply (green)
7Warning lamps earth
8Reception of the debugging signal
9High Speed Comfort CAN
10Microphone signal input (-)
11Microphone signal output (-)
12Not connected
13Signal from the emergency call button
14Supply
15Signal from the assistance call button
16Earth
17Emission of the debugging signal
18Low Speed Comfort CAN
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Re: Peugeot 207 - Nomade/KML, microphone

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I just came back from garage. I spent there 2 hours or so to dismantle the glove box but unfortunately i didn't find any kind of telematic unit. I checked every side few times to be sure nothing there is hide. I took some photos how it looks without glove box.
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I checked again the microphone beam that goes from the roof lamp through the A-pillar. These are two thin cables of light pink and light brown color as on photos. They are hiding somewhere near the bsi inside the dashboard, but it's almost impossible to see where there goes on or where they connect to :/ I starting to get frustrating, grrrrrrr. One guy from polish forum told me that this microphone beam should connect to some of the plug that is above the bsi. Later today i will upload a photo that shows all the cable harness and bsi inside dashboard (i mean all the cables under/near A-pillar).
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Edit: I find out on polish forum that there are 2 options where microphone beam can goes:
1. To cube somewhere in the bsi? OR
2. To cube in the bsi and then to telematic module and then to head unit to radio.

While i don't have the telematic module, it means that microphone beam goes to some of the cube in the bsi and then it goes nowhere.

Where do people find out these schema photos like this?
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Re: Peugeot 207 - Nomade/KML, microphone

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Ok, so Here is the Audio Wiring Diagram for your car as it was Originally, showing Hands Free unit, Microphone connections etc:

8492 is the Hands Free Kit
8410 is the Audio System
7215 Multifunction screen
8482 Microphone
8408 Equaliser Amplifier

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Here is the exploded part for the Hands Free Connections:

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Here is the supposed location of the Hands Free Unit:

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Re: Peugeot 207 - Nomade/KML, microphone

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In the right side in glove box i have only AUX wiring (three). And to the radio on the back, the white cube comes in with the aux cables (3)
There's nothing more there, im 100% sure. I think the microphone beam goes somewhere do bsi and that's all. But i don't know what's the point of it :/
Just take a look on my photos in previous post; you wont see anything there.
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Hi Ventori

I have just re-checked again from your VIN and for some reason I think the system hadn't refreshed properly from another post I was working on at the same time - so really sorry about this, but looking again, for the sixth time I can now see that you do NOT have either hands free nor the independent telematic unit fitted - which is why it is not there!

This has happened a few times before too. So the microphone pre-wiring is there, but as to where it now goes without the independent telematics unit nor the hands free kit is anyone's guess. :(

I will send you a VIN report via email for your car so you can see for yourself.
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Re: Peugeot 207 - Nomade/KML, microphone

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GiveMeABreak wrote:
07 Feb 2021, 11:52
Hi Ventori

I have just re-checked again from your VIN and for some reason I think the system hadn't refreshed properly from another post I was working on at the same time - so really sorry about this, but looking again, for the sixth time I can now see that you do NOT have either hands free nor the independent telematic unit fitted - which is why it is not there!

This has happened a few times before too. So the microphone pre-wiring is there, but as to where it now goes without the independent telematics unit nor the hands free kit is anyone's guess. :(

I will send you a VIN report via email for your car so you can see for yourself.
Hi again!
Thanks for your effort anyway.

Do you know my email address yes? It's the same as i registered on this forum.
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Re: Peugeot 207 - Nomade/KML, microphone

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Yes, I have that - all sent. :wink:
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Re: Peugeot 207 - Nomade/KML, microphone

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GiveMeABreak wrote:
07 Feb 2021, 12:15
Yes, I have that - all sent. :wink:
I got it thanks.

But now back on topic; Assuming that I won't find the end of microphone beam (i'm already tired of these labyrinth of cables), it remains for me to buy a new microphone harness together with a cube, which I will attach directly to the radio?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3281183 ... 5608%23200

What would you do, if you were me? :D
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Re: Peugeot 207 - Nomade/KML, microphone

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Most people I'm aware of who have fitted an RD45 have just wired in a microphone directly to the back of the Quadlock.
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Re: Peugeot 207 - Nomade/KML, microphone

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Do you maybe have the diagram of total route of this pre-wiring? I lose sight of it at the end of the A-pillar.
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No sorry, only the subsections and that is all there is for the Microphone / Audio
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Re: Peugeot 207 - Nomade/KML, microphone

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Hi Ventori

Did you ever find the end of the microphone loom?

Best regards
Christian
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Re: Peugeot 207 - Nomade/KML, microphone

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MrJetDK wrote:
20 Aug 2021, 06:44
Hi Ventori

Did you ever find the end of the microphone loom?

Best regards
Christian
Hi,

Unfortunately not. I ended up to buy full micro harness from aliexpress.
https://pl.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-m ... na50g5oiRg