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Not sure where to plonk this article, so I shall put it here.....

Climate change: Electric trucks 'can compete with diesel ones'


"The view that battery-powered heavy goods lorries can't compete with diesel is being challenged by new research.
It had been felt that the extra batteries needed for freight would make electric vehicles too expensive.
But a new study says that if fast charging networks are built for trucks, then they can beat diesel in terms of cost.
With fast charging, the bigger the vehicle, the greater the advantage for electric, say researchers."

"Around 7% of global carbon emissions are generated by heavy transportation trucks."

"Adding extra batteries to carry the bigger loads just doesn't add up financially is the view.
But this new study from the Stockholm Environment Institute (SEI), says that we are looking at the issue the wrong way round.
In their research paper, the authors say that fast charging and not bigger batteries is the key to commercial competition for large-scale electric lorries."

"While there have been reservations about the use of electric trucks, there has been a lot of noise about the potential for hydrogen-powered vehicles at the heavier end of the market.
"The key is the price of the hydrogen fuel cell, that price has been going down, but not as fast as the price of batteries," says Dr Liimatainen.
"If they come down, they will be quite competitive in the largest trucks, but it all depends on price.""

More on the BBC website: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-56678669

If you're really desperate or very bored, you can buy access to read the full research article here https://www.cell.com/joule/home

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..and the truck in front, although suffering the odd delay or 2 in the timetable is

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The stats on the first of Elon Musk's first active Hyperloop in Las Vegas, constructed by his tunnelling start-up "Boring Company" are a touch crazy.

A Boring Company Loop system consists of tunnels in which Tesla autonomous electric vehicles travel at high speeds between stations to transport people within a city.

It is the Las Vegas Convention Centre Loop

It has a length of 1.5 miles, cost $50 Million, and was completed in 12 Months.
It has 3 stops. For now, the fleet of 62 Tesla vehicles that use the loop have drivers.

Its longer term intention is to link up the Airport and the Strip, which may make it a less ridiculous, and who knows potentially profitable system.

Maybe $17 million/mile is very good value tunnelling, and Musk will eventually be onto another winner. Time will tell.



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Tesco shopping yesterday I saw the biggest Scania artic I've ever seen in the flesh squeezing its way through Lydney, looked brand new. In the traffic queue so no photo and I can't find one online.

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Bit of news on the Tesla Semi.

Electrek:Tesla Semi: Tesla is looking to launch its ‘Semi Service Program’ starting with a surprising location

Like with their cars, Tesla had some enormous barriers to overcome. There was no infrastructure to support the use of their vehicles across the USA, so they built their own network.

Same thing with their move into the long distance haulage field with their Semi trucks. Not only the challenges of developing the truck itself, but also in establishing an infrastructure to support early customers to run their businesses using the Tesla Semi Trucks.

As well as a network of Mega chargers designed for the trucks, although requiring less service than regular ICE trucks, Tesla have a vested interest in the revenue stream of servicing their own trucks, as well as ensuring that the standards and expertese applied in "keeping the trucks rolling for customers" are controlled by TESLA rather than third parties.

The article speculates that the seemingly unusual choice of location for the first TESLA Semi Service Centre is to be in Mississauga nearToronto in Ontario Canada may well be because Walmart Canada, who are one of TESLA's largest customers with reservations on 130 Tesla Semis are based in Mississauga.

It could mean that Tesla plans first deliver electric trucks to Walmart Canada, and it is planning to have local Tesla Semi service ready.

As in most things, TESLA are way ahead of the competitors in the important early days of the electrification of long distance haulage.

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Scania embracing electrification of their trucks.... and yes Gibbo....part of the Volkswagen Group :-D



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Daimler unveils new ‘first of its kind’ electric truck charging station

The good thing about this, is the way the Electric Trucks Manufacturers realise just like our friends at Tesla, that in order to sell their electric trucks and make a sound business case for potential customers, infrastructure to support their customers, has to be developed hand in hand.

Here is "Dime-ler's" effort in Portland Oregon.



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That Daimler is a lookalike for the huge Scania I mentioned earlier passing through Lydney.

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School Buses

Lawmakers unveil $25 billion legislation to convert US school buses to electric

As reported by ABC News, in the US alone, school buses account for 90% of the total buses on roads and regularly transport about 25 million children per day.

Definitely a valid case to embody Vehicle to Grid (V2G) connectivity as this commenter noted..
Make the legislation mandate V2G in each bus . . the limited time-of-use case for these electric vehicles makes each of them a BESS-on-wheels. (Battery Energy Storage System)
The US tend to go for the iconic Yellow "School Bus" Buses, presumably with no other function than to be a School Bus.

Undoubtedly if you wind the clock back to my schooldays many of the school buses should have been condemned. It was never the local bus companies' finest vehicles that were used on the school run.

Even the relatively modern buses provided by the coach operators today for the school run, still make a hideous stench of diesel fumes when "warming" up each morning.

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When is a Taxi not a Taxi. When its a private hire (bookings only) or the new in thing "a ride share".
Not sure how many people "hail a cab" by raising their arm and shouting "TAXI" seems a bit 20th Century now :-D
Maybe with a ride-sharing service you don't subscribe to exclusive use for your journey like private hire or a Taxi.

Thing is if you launch a new "ride share" service with a fleet of Tesla Model Y's in New York, you get more publicity that launching a normal taxi service, and even get a mention on the cutting edge FCF :-D

The fleet looks good when its all corralled together at its own superhub, and the firm in question Revel
has moved up from mopeds for hire, to model Y's.

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Of course as Frank Sinatra told us in that song about the City that never sleeps, If you can make it there, you will make it anywhere.

Electrek:New modified-Tesla ride-share launching from electric moped sharing service Revel

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I think Arrival are one of the most interesting companies in the Commercial vehicle world. Its a UK Start up, now listed on the NASDAQ, and very impressive in their vision. R&D in Banbury, Manufacturing kicking off in Bicester, but also with global ambitions as you would expect.

This vid from 2020, with an impressive contributor from Arrival, and Robert Llewellyn asking the questions.



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Rain stopped play on the fencing job so I have been delving into Arrival :-D

They have a youttube channel as you might expect.

Here is possibly the most innovative aspect of their model...Distributed micro factories, based on micro cells capable of building any arrival product, and moving away from the conveyor belt manufacture with production lines and robots being set up only to make one product. The 20M x20M micro cell with its robots can make any product.

Arrival are very much a tech company, most of their employees are software engineers and AI specialists.

Not very good news for the global steel industry, or the paint industry, composites used for the body panels. Plenty of other interesting and innovative stuff on the Arrival You Tube Channel

To me it all make perfect sense.



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Arrival in the news today
Arrival and Uber to collaborate on electric car for the ride hailing industry


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EV startup Arrival has announced a new partnership with Uber to design and develop a purpose-built EV specifically for ride-share drivers. Arrival plans to invite Uber’s drivers to participate in the design process to ensure this new “Arrival Car” meets their needs. The new partnership also looks to further a strategic relationship together in primary markets like the UK and the EU.

According to a press release from the automaker today, the Arrival Car is expected to enter production in Q3 2023 as an affordable, purpose-built EV designed with and for Uber drivers. With over 30 million estimated ride-share drivers globally, the expedited shift toward electric vehicles can help drastically reduce carbon emissions and improve air quality. Tom Elvidge, SVP Arrival Mobility UK, stated:
We are confident that electrifying ride-hailing vehicles will have an outsized impact on cities, and we are keen to support drivers as they manage this transition. Arrival Car will be designed around drivers’ needs to create a vehicle that is affordable, durable, and desirable. We have had great success working alongside key partners to create our best-in-class delivery van, and we hope to replicate that success with Uber as we develop the best possible product for ride hailing that elevates the experience of the passenger and improves drivers’ health, safety, and finances.

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A total disgrace that the Welsh Senedd have given a 36 electric bus order for Cardiff to China! With British jobs in the bus industry having already taken a knock... say no more.

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TfL has done the same, so far, with fleets of the excellent BYD all-electrics.
I think there is some cooperation with Dennis on these.
To be fair, the Chinese did get there first, and by a considerable margin.
Dare say there will some British copies... :oops: