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Another item from The Register:
One week after announcing plans to phase out autos powered by gasoline, California energy authorities are facing a heat wave so severe residents are being asked not to charge their electric vehicles during "flex alerts" designed to reduce stress on the grid.

According to a heat bulletin [PDF] issued by the California Independent System Operator (CAISO), temperatures across the state are expected to be 10 to 20 degrees warmer than typical between August 30 and September 6. Load on the electrical grid peaks between 4-9 pm, during which time CAISO said it may issue flex alerts urging Californians to reduce their electricity consumption.

"The top three conservation actions are to set thermostats to 78 degrees [25˚C] or higher, avoid using large appliances and charging electric vehicles, and turn off unnecessary lights," CAISO said, noting that voluntary reduction in energy consumption could "prevent more drastic measures, including rotating power outages."

CAISO has already issued a flex alert for September 1 [PDF], and warned that additional alerts could be issued throughout the Labor Day weekend.
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myglaren wrote: 02 Sep 2022, 13:09 California
California's decision to introduce additional power-hungry EVs to the state's grid looks a bit short-sighted, especially if climate change is likely to fuel similar weather patterns in the future.
Yes the best response to climate change is to burn more gasoline. Last thing you want is mildly inconveniencing power hungry EV users in a heatwave. Thanks for your insight California.

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We could see exactly the same sort of thing happening here this winter IF the weather here and in Europe is against us, although it's not a high likelyhood that'll happen. It's called progress.... I think.
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BMW to enable ‘Multi Contract Plug&Charge’ in 2023Drivers may add up to five provider contracts under certain conditions.
https://www.electrive.com/2022/09/12/bm ... e-in-2023/
I'll say one thing for petrol and diesel...it's supply has evolved into an easy transaction at the point of use for the customer. No club joining/registering, Pay as you go the norm, obvious unit price, and filling nozzles at the dispenser, which fit your car's filler neck socket pretty much all around the world.

Meanwhile over in the Electric World, the dog's breakfast continues apace. Here's BMW championing their particular development of simplification...yes the car will tell the charger all the relevant details, assume command and all you have to do is plug the "nozzle" in.

In the background the car retains details of "up to 5 Contracts" to allow the car to perform this miraculous feat, er which also requires a compatible charger...

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Give it time Neil it's got over a hundred years of catching up to do and it's moving a lot faster than petrol did. I remember in the 1950s still winding up petrol with a cranking handle a gallon at a time. :-D
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Innovation or novelty? Solar EV Chargers

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Innovation I'd say...

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Osprey Charging to increase its rapid charging rate to £1 per kWh.

Osprey will move onto the only if desperate list with that move. Currently NCC (35p/kWh) and Chargeplace Scotland (30p/kW) seem good value in comparison for on-the-road charging.

To translate £/kWh into a more recognisable £/litre equivalent you have to assume an energy consumption figures for an electric car/petrol car. If we assume 4 miles/kWh for electric (the more efficient ones may get over 5, the heavy un-aerodynamic over-large bricks get well under 3.) and petrol at £1.70/litre

Electric...At £1.00/kWh (on-the-road rapid charging) that's 25p/mile
Electric At £0.34/kWh (home charging) that's 8.5p/mile

Petrol a car doing 10 miles/litre (45 mpg) would be 17p/mile
Petrol a car doing 12.5 miles/litre (56.25 mpg) would be 13.6p/mile

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The Zoe computer tells me I'm getting 4.2 miles per Kwh.

Power outages won't affect the EV owner if he's already charged up or the diesel owner with a full tank but I don't have to make the trip to the filling station with a can to top up when the power comes back on. :)
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NewcastleFalcon wrote: 13 Sep 2022, 16:01 Innovation or novelty? Solar EV Chargers

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I wonder what the council would say to me erecting one of those on my front Yard.
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I'm rather sceptical of their viability vs cost especially in the UK.
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Wouldn't be any good round here with all the wild birds (huge crows, magpies, starlings, hawks, Kites plus all the normal garden birds), we'd be forever cleaning the crap off the panels - it's bad enough with the paths and fences that we have to clean regularly to remove it all.

I expect they don't have that issue in Californ I A.

I wonder how those solar 'parasols' would handle a few brisk wind storms a la UK?
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GiveMeABreak wrote: 16 Sep 2022, 19:16 Wouldn't be any good round here with all the wild birds (huge crows, magpies, starlings, hawks, Kites plus all the normal garden birds), we'd be forever cleaning the crap off the panels - it's bad enough with the paths and fences that we have to clean regularly to remove it all.

I expect they don't have that issue in Californ I A.

I wonder how those solar 'parasols' would handle a few brisk wind storms a la UK?
I wondered that too, my neighbours, two of them each had a fourteen foot trampoline both went walkabout to the end of the street one night.

My solar panels on the house seem to be paying off well though so a set up on the front yard might also if the cost was reasonable.
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I've been watching the odd video from these regarding the Ami (and the stunning locations of the French Riviera), and this Bluetti Solar power brick seems a good idea. I like the fold away solar panels.

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