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Re: faulty 'screens' on 806

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I've just spent couple of hours on the fan thing with my more 'bendy' pal & have discovered that :-
a/ the screw at the lh rear of the glove box releases the 'computer' which semi obscures the fan.
b/ the bracket holding the 2 large round cable connectors simply pops off from a ball headed fitting. If these connectors are 'split' & moved aside, access will be improved.
d/ It seems that access may be fine if the glove box could be removed but removal of screw in a/ plus 3 screws at the top front edge of the box still leave it firmly attached. Does this come out without dismantling the entire dash?
e/ The 2 large cable connectors have what appear to be 'line up' marks on 'collars' which can be turned but I'm reluctant to try seperating these by what would be mostly touch without knowing exactly how as any damage to them could be irreparable. How do these split?
Sorry to be long winded bore about this but it really is difficult trying to access & dismantle something I can't properly see whilst performing gymnastics so any help appeciated.
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Re: faulty 'screens' on 806

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Vic Evans wrote:
28 Jan 2020, 15:13
I've just spent couple of hours on the fan thing with my more 'bendy' pal & have discovered that :-
a/ the screw at the lh rear of the glove box releases the 'computer' which semi obscures the fan.
b/ the bracket holding the 2 large round cable connectors simply pops off from a ball headed fitting. If these connectors are 'split' & moved aside, access will be improved.
d/ It seems that access may be fine if the glove box could be removed but removal of screw in a/ plus 3 screws at the top front edge of the box still leave it firmly attached. Does this come out without dismantling the entire dash?
e/ The 2 large cable connectors have what appear to be 'line up' marks on 'collars' which can be turned but I'm reluctant to try seperating these by what would be mostly touch without knowing exactly how as any damage to them could be irreparable. How do these split?
Sorry to be long winded bore about this but it really is difficult trying to access & dismantle something I can't properly see whilst performing gymnastics so any help appeciated.
vic
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Does anyone have the answers to the above?
I've now found another glove box holding screw hidden behind the lower A panel air inlet but am now really stuck & 'flying' blind.
It does seem as though I can access the fan etc if the glove box is removed but how?
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Re: faulty 'screens' on 806

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I had a quick look at servicebox, and it appears that the glove box is not intended to be removed, but the instructions for removing the blowers do not include glove box or dashboard removal.

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Re: faulty 'screens' on 806

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xantia_v6 wrote:
30 Jan 2020, 19:46
I had a quick look at servicebox, and it appears that the glove box is not intended to be removed, but the instructions for removing the blowers do not include glove box or dashboard removal.
Thanks for looking.
I've today downloaded a manual from Service manuals online & that makes no mention of removing the glove box & simply says 'remove fan' but the pics do appear to show the two large connectors unconnected.
I wish it was that easy. I can't see any way of removing the fan when I can't see what I'm doing. :roll:

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Re: faulty 'screens' on 806

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I’ll put what I have on this up later for you.

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Re: faulty 'screens' on 806

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GiveMeABreak wrote:
30 Jan 2020, 22:07
I’ll put what I have on this up later for you.
Sorry to be a bore but is there any chance you could help me out re. glove box removal.
Because of the lockdown I've not taken the old gal out much but a trip the other day reminded me to re-visit this problem which I've still not resolved.
Having looked again, as best I can, I still can't see any way of removing the fan without disconnecting the large round cable connectors & 'going in' through the glove box hole as there's just no way I can contort my body enough to work in this restricted area.
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Re: faulty 'screens' on 806

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Sorry about that - I obviously forgot to get back on this.

Ok, so there is no mention or requirement for removal of the glovebox Vic. The only part of the glovebox that is removable is the bottom lid. The glovebox is part of the lower trim section as far as I can see. Although the procedure to remove the blower does not require it, if you still want the lower trim fascia unit that stretches along the front that incorporates the globebox, let me know.

There are 2 blowers on each side:

Removing Blower / Blower Module Left-Hand Side
806 A.PNG
Preliminary Requirement - Remove the Left Hand Lower Lining:

Unclip the sound-proofing under the fascia.

Note: You may or may not need to perform all the operations listed - the complete lower left trim removal is here as it is - do what is necessary to gain access.

Remove:
  • The mountings (1)
    The hinge pillar ventilator (2)
Tilt the coded anti-start key pad ( 3).
Pass the hand through the key pad aperture and push the switches.
Unclip the electrical connection.

Remove:
  • The switches ( 4)
  • The blanks, for access to the fixings (8)
  • The cover (5)
    The mountings (6) - (7) - (8) - (9)
Allow the trim to fall slowly.

Unclip the electrical connection:
  • Lighting rheostat
  • Headlamp height adjustment control
  • Coded engine immobiliser keypad
  • Remove the trim (10).
(Refitting is a reversal).
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  • Remove the mountings (1).
  • Separate the bonnet release bracket ( 2).
  • Remove the sound insulation support bracket ( 3).
  • Unclip the electrical connection ( 4).
  • Remove the blower (/).
  • Remove the module.
Removing Blower Right-Hand Side
806 C.PNG
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Remove the sound insulation.

Unclip:
  • The door connection support ( 1) by pulling
  • The electrical connection (2)
Remove:
  • The mountings (3)
  • The blower unit (4)

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Re: faulty 'screens' on 806

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Cheers Marc
Pity the glove box doesn't come out as this would make it a easier to see what I am doing.
The faulty fan is RH side ie passenger footwell on my LHD.
It looks easy to remove using the instructions but practically it's a swine as it tucked up under the footwell & my old body just doesn't bend enough to get my head & hands under at the same time in the space available.
I'm thinking that I might remove the passenger seat & build a platform so I can work on my LH side with my legs out of the car.
hopefully one last question. How do you undo the large circular connectors joining the looms which obscure access to the fan?
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Re: faulty 'screens' on 806

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Ok so as it's on the right side you have the issue with, here is the part to remove the glovebox moulding that goes from the centre console to the right hand side if it helps:

Remove the left hand lower lining as previously described.
806 Glove A.PNG
Remove:
  • The sound insulation under the fascia (/)
  • The mountings (1)
  • The hinge pillar ventilator (2)
Unclip the gear lever gaiter ( 3) without removing it.

Remove:
  • The mountings (4)
  • The ashtray assembly (5)
Unclip:
  • The cigar lighter electrical connections
  • The switches ( 6)
  • The electrical connections on the heater panel
Remove:
  • The air distribution control knobs ( 7)
  • The mountings (8)
  • Front panel (9)
  • The push buttons (10)
Open the bottom glove box lid.
Unclip and remove the lamp ( 11).

Remove:
  • The mountings (12)
  • The fixing (13)
806 Glove B.PNG
Remove:
  • The cover (14)
  • The mountings (15) - (16) - (17)
Hold the trim in place.
Remove the mountings (18).
Take out the trim to allow the gear lever to pass.
Unclip the connections from the lamp ( 19) and the switch (20).
Remove the trim (21).

Refitting
Proceed in the reverse order to removal.

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Re: faulty 'screens' on 806

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Cheers Marc. Very usefull info.
I think I will still need to split these connectors as the looms pass in front of the fan. How do they undo?
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Matter of interest, I've now lost practically all of the info on the km's & other screen so the problem must be a dodgy earth I've disturbed fumbling around with the wiring.
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Re: faulty 'screens' on 806

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Ok so with these I think you need a flat blade screw driver and need to release the lugs arrowed. That should release the circular connector.
806 connector.png
I'm not sure if this is of any help, but here's a video showing how to take the panel off. I think he's doing a different job, but it shows photographically what the instructions are saying I posted:


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Re: faulty 'screens' on 806

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Thanks Marc.